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    How my outlook on BJJ has changed.

    When I got my first taste of BJJ I was like wow this stuff is awesome.
    After a couple of months of training I was like this is it,you don't get a better style than this.
    Even though I was cross training in boxing Muay Thai,my main interest was in the Jiu Jitsu.
    I used to be all proud of how well it did in the NHB comps and used to rag karate or kung fu.
    When I would see this Tae Kwon Do academy I would want to laugh at them.

    Now years later and going for my purple later this year my outlook has changed somewhat,I have come to love the art not for it's effectiveness or for what it's proven in the ring but for the art itself,I find myself grappling with guys at the gym and loving every minute of it.
    I still cross train in the striking arts and will continue to do so,I have used my BJJ effectively in many challenge matches and at first thats what it was about,but now I would rather just roll arround for hours with one of my training partners instead.

    I also realises that this art isn't just to be used for fighting or challenge matches or NHB fighting,it's an art that you and a couple of friends can get to grips with and be amazed by all the simple techniques that make it so effective.

    Anywazy I started off with BJJ because of the hype and the UFC and stuff,but I'm glad that now while the art is still **** effective,I've found myself loving it for what it is and not just what it can do.
    "You're Good Kid Real Good,But As Long As I'm Arround You'll Always Be Second Best See".

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    Seems to me you've come to a realization of what *martial arts* are for and not just BJJ. Congratulations. Most people who claim to be martial artists don't even make it that plane of consciousness.
    K. Mark Hoover

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    That warms my heart KS.

    My sincerest congratulations .

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    Maybe you've just come to realize that you are gay'! just kidding..yes i too enjoy some grappling or ground fighting...BUT then someone sticks a finger in my eye and i realize i aught not get too fancy or roll around that long.

    think about it..
    Michael Panzerotti
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    Originally posted by Rolling Elbow
    Maybe you've just come to realize that you are gay'! just kidding..yes i too enjoy some grappling or ground fighting...BUT then someone sticks a finger in my eye and i realize i aught not get too fancy or roll around that long.

    think about it..
    I have no idea what WD is talking about.--Royal Dragon

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    Got to it before I did WD.

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    Here are some of the things I like about BJJ:

    1. I loved rasslin' around as a kid so BJJ came real natural.
    2. If someone doesnt know their stuff ,you find out real quick.(making it hard for BJJ McDojos)
    3.Only 4 belts. Not alot of concern over rank.
    4.No formal exams or exam fees. You are being tested all time.
    5.Class is divided into Drills & Rolling/sparring.What you practice in drilling works in sparring.
    6.No rules to feed the ego of the instructor. No pushups when you are running late. No Bowing. No BS. Just shaking hands because its just a bunch of guys(& girls) having fun training.
    7.You can't win a tournament by being knocked out.
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    Here's what I like about BJJ-
    When a guy tries to stick his fingers in your eyes, you get to break his arm.

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    Congratulations KnightSabre, that was very nicely expressed.

    This may be a bit off-topic, but anyway. I personally think BJJ is more like a cousin to judo than jujutsu. Just curious why it is jujutsu rather than judo. Of course Jigoro Kano, the founder of judo, took many principles from jujutsu but still there are tons of same techniques in BJJ and judo, which makes me think that it should be Brazilian Judo. I do not know much about BJJ's history, but maybe somebody can help clear this out. Thanks.

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    Yuen,

    Most people agree that the instructor of the Gracies was a man named Maeda, sometimes referred to as Comte Koma (Count Combat). There is no record of Maeda having trained in a traditional Japanese Jujutsu style. That doesn't mean he didn't, it just means that there is no record of it, at least not to my knowledge. However, he did study Kodokan Judo--that record exists.

    There is speculation that Maeda may have used jiujitsu instead of judo because he had taken part in professional wrestling matches in which the outcome was predetermined, and the Kodokan might have frowned on a "professional wrestler" teaching "judo," so he called it jiujitsu instead. This is speculation. All that is known is that he taught judo that he called jiujitsu to the gracies and other brazilians.

    Take your Judo, edit out the throws, refine the ground skills through repetitive practice and experience, add a set of competition rules that reward a strong groundfighting game, add a dash of time, and you've got BJJ.

    It makes sense, for one on one combat actually. Even for a very skilled man, throwing a 250 lb man if you are 140 is hard. However, frustrating them with a good open or closed guard is fairly easy by comparison. Helio and Carlos Gracie were not large men apparently, so you can do the math.

    I don't buy in to the idea that Helio and Carlos developed previously unheard of leverages what not. I do believe that they, and their family, refined the ground game, adding new things and getting very, very good at the ground.

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    Thanks for all the replies.

    One of the things I like about grappling is that with the constant contact if you do get a finger in the eye,accidently or intentionally you can still continue.Infact often when I grapple I close my eyes the whole time so that I have to rely on my feel more than what I see.

    I also hear that BJJ came from Judo and not Ju Jitsu.
    "You're Good Kid Real Good,But As Long As I'm Arround You'll Always Be Second Best See".

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    Thanks Merryprankster for clearing that out.

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    i never knew that men could transcend just likeing to roll around with other men and move to higher levels of rolling around with other men
    it is not the physical force which inspires the fear that makes men sick of
    soul so much as that which comes from the eyes, some subtle emanation from the personality as a gas that takes the strength from men's limbs.

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    My outlook of BJJ and grapling in general changed when I went to check out a vale tudo class. I realized I would get my ass handed to me if one of those guys took me to the ground.
    Your intelligence is surpassed only by your ignorance.

    You are more likely to fall down the stairs and break your neck if you live in a house with stairs. You are more likely to be in a car accident if you drive to work. You are more likely to be kicked in the nuts or punched in the nose if you practicing the martial arts. - Judge Pen

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    Good BBJ schools in NYC

    Since we are on the topic of BBJ, can anyone recommend a good BBJ class in NYC area that is affordable? or just plain good for that matter?

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