o.k, MD your teachings suprise me,you make such sense,looks like you won again.

so youre saying,not to have virtue,you can still reach the level of excellence.becase kung fu cannot find away past the sex thing.

did CLC try to reach that level of excellene of the kwong mei monk,or better still "bak mei".i suppose they had sex like rabbits,like you MD the saviour.thank you for such interlectual info.i'll clear this up with my mother as thats what she taught me.