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    B'more Banga you took note when Fu-Pow backed his school's lion as best. What are some of the strong teams you have been on or witnessed in the U.S.? Are you or were you a member of Yau Kung Mun or Bak Hok or maybe Gee Yung?

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    HSF

    I've seen that kinda competition on the east coast in the 2 years I've been out here, let alone the number of times I've heard it occuring over the past decade or two.
    Just coz it ain't on the west coast doesn't mean it ain't in the US.


    My bad about the freestyle competition, it's been a while since I saw the rules for that one.
    People from the east coast were thinking about flying out for that one but wanted to check out the video first.

    I've seen online clips of Siow's stuff, some west coast stuff, and some stuff from Houston. Saw Jimmy Wong's crew in Plano in person a few times.
    You see from my wording that not everyone stopped playing lion when they did the tricks.

    When it comes to animation, I've seen good stuff from both sides.
    I personally prefer traditional footwork and routines to the modern style. But to say one has a clear dominance over the other in animation doesn't make sense when there are equally bad examples from both camps. j/k There are some players from both sides that'll make your jaw drop.



    bro#9

    I was on a team a lot closer to your home. Think of a 4 letter word for kung fu in DC and i was one of them. hehe

    Teams I think are good?
    This list could get long.

    On the east coast, heard you guys are good, JeLeiSifu's stuff's good, DF can get down with a lion, yah if I keep goin I'm gonna leave someone out on accident and it's going to look like a slam on that team.

    Let's just say I've seen a lot of good ones on the east coast.

    On the east coast it's more about festivals, parades, and freestyle shows than preset jong competitions; a lot more traditional than modern.

    I take issue with someone claiming they're the best, just like I'd take issue with someone claiming they were the best fighter without having seen them do much more than light sparring.
    Or someone who claims to be the best cook, without having tasted more than a pb&j sandwich from them.
    In traditional lion dance if you say you're the best, expect to back it up, and there are ways to back it up.
    Rules of the game, yah know?
    What would happen if a year-old baby fell from a fourth-floor window onto the head of a burly truck driver, standing on the sidewalk?
    It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
    Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
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    It's all good

    BMore Banga, you are right about you east coast guys. My bad for not thinking about that. Now I know why you need police escorts at CNY

    I should reword my statement to a "sanctioned" team vs. team tournament of the HK type. I think breaking out the butterfly knives and long poles would attract a little attention. I don't even want to think about the fool carrying the kwan do. LOL

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    When I first joined our lion team we didn't do very much of tricks in the way of jongs or stacks, everything was based on different chang presentations, postures, footwork, power and expression of the lion. The tails were really long. We used only 3 colors of lions. Red, black, and white(or yellow). We still use primarily those colors but we also have a few different ones now including a gold laser fabric skin one and another that is a bit more collorful and includes white, red, yellow, and blue on it.

    Now we still focus primarily on footwork, power, and expression of the lion but have included all kinds of tricks and stacks and a few routines on benches as well as impromptu jongs or setups by a couple particular restaurant owners that have background in lion dance. We havent been involved in any greetings between lions of different schools since 95 and haven't been involved in any altercations since the last time we were in DC Chinatown in '90. (which really was nothing and we all have a good respect for each other now). Next year my Sifu is throwing a 25 year anniversary grand opening of his school, he's gonna invite loads of schools and hopes to get as many as 30 lions in attendance. There may probably be more Jow Ga lions than anything else but I'm quite sure there may also be some Choy Lay Fut, Hung Gar, SPM, Wah Lum, and maybe Fu-Jow Pai, 7* Mantis, and who knows who else there, maybe some of you reading this.

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    You know peeps we do have a Lion Dance Forum

    brothernumber9
    hope to see you there we have a thread going on what is your fave lion...

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    I guess that stuff do happen on the left coast
    Nice little thread
    What would happen if a year-old baby fell from a fourth-floor window onto the head of a burly truck driver, standing on the sidewalk?
    It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
    Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
    -Jack Dempsey ch1 pg1 Championship Fighting

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    Thanks Bmore...
    Come and post and tell what you have seen on the right coast....hehehehehe

    ~Jason
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    What is 'traditional kung fu' ?
    Chinese fighting arts developed before the advent of the modern age in China. Not to be confused with modern, post-1949, Wushu or competitive fighting such as kick boxing .
    By Shanghai Jing Mo

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    Yah that's my problem...

    Talked way too much on this thread already.

    No longer part of a team; so while I have a little more freedom to speak, I have no grounds to speak from.

    Besides, results are strictly confidential, even describing the situation (omitting names) could stir up bad blood with respective parties.

    Plus, if quitting didn't make me unloved before, talking like that would downright make me a marked man.

    I'll read the threads down there tho.
    Pretty entertaining so far.
    What would happen if a year-old baby fell from a fourth-floor window onto the head of a burly truck driver, standing on the sidewalk?
    It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
    Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
    -Jack Dempsey ch1 pg1 Championship Fighting

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    For lion Dance enthusiasts

    Hey just got an email from one of the guys on the lions cave newslist and apparently W.C.Hu has given permission to have his book 'Chinese Lion Dance Explained made available, for free, online.

    This is a pretty big book on the subject and covers facets of lion dance that you just might not find elsewhere.

    You can get it at:


    http://www.cpafoundation.org/

    enjoy.
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    A) I get a stupid Windows login screen everytime a click a page.

    B) The book is broken into 5 page sections??? I'm not interested enough to download 100 files and re-assemble them later.
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    lol, yeah, they have the folder secured, but no user name or password.

    Just click through it. I'm sure someone with a bit of net savvy will help them out with that eventually.

    You can download it if you know how to root through your temp files for the correct flash files, but otherwise, it is still a good resource simply for the fact that you cannot get a printed version of this book anymore.

    I'm not gonna go into the details about soThink SWF decompiler to take apart and recompile the book, because it's a condition of access to it at this time that we please don't do that sort of thing.

    In the meantime, Half a loaf is better than no loaf in my books.
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    Lion Dancing

    I have no footage of our past lion dances but plenty of pictures......

    so what did i do? of course,.......made up a slideshow for one.

    hope you like.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz6WgjCZHfM
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    Thumbs up

    Frank,


    Did you recently learn video editing?


    Nice slide show, I just noticed you seem to be hooked on the video editing bug. I got bit by the bug once before, but I was too lazy to stick with it.

    It's alot of work, but it's fun when it come together.

    jeff
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    That was cool. Thanks!
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    jmd.

    I have taken on learning video editing all by myself. Yeah it's fun becaue i've never done it before, and look at the turn out?!?!?

    It started with the websites, then the slideshows, and now video editing.

    I do plan on doing my own line of dvd's and this is a good experience and practice at getting better.

    it's all done in fun.....


    hsk
    Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
    when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
    Bruh we thought you knew better
    when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better

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