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    Post The 5 Animal Frolics

    Aside from myself who knows the training, Who else does it and what do you get out of it?

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    It makes me mad when people say I turned and ran like a scared rabbit. Maybe it was like an angry rabbit, who was going to fight in another fight, away from the first fight.

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    Why not tell us what you get out of the training if you do it?

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    The animal frolics.

    Not necessarily the "5" animal frolics.

    Qigong that allows for free flow of energy through the body.
    In early times, practitioners where thought to be in a trance like state and that their motions were imitating those of animals. Hence the name.

    However, the motions are induced by the allowance of the free flow of energy.

    For example, have you ever seen a small child just standing there and for no apparent reason the child is flapping their arms or stamping their feet or just generally moving about for no apparent reason. If not, take a look at a kid sometime and you will see what I mean. This is free flow and is in essence similar to what is apparent when an adult allows for this to happen.

    People would let energy flow freely and because of this they looked like they were imitating everything from deers to geese to tigers to bears and so on.

    A very early version of "freestyle" chi kung.

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    Hmmm

    Well it is actually known as the 5 Animal frolics by a lot of people. When the 5 Animal frolics were created by the famous Chinese Physician Hua To they were later expanded upon to include other animals too, but initially there were 5 one animal each to represent all 5 elements. This was so because each animal represents all thr elemental groups of all Zang Fu, i.e.:
    Bear = Spleen/Stomach , Bird = Lung/Large Intestine , Deer = Kidney/Bladder and so on...

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    okay well some of us know what it is.

    so i will refer back to my original question and that is ,,,if you do the training what is it that you get out of it? Kung LEK. i liked your knowledge of what you call free flow of energy through the body.
    as i have learned the five animals: bear crane tiger deer and monkey. each one signifies a different meridian point on the midline of the body. two aspects to the training,,the live(or moving the chi aspect through body movement) or the dead(which actually means isometric or stationary) the dead training is something like the i chin ching muscle tendon changing classics where you are tensing and breathing and relaxing. focusing on different points all along the midline. bear being the easiest to follow for it focusues on the tan tien and building chi there and washing it through out the body. the bear is a yin excersise.
    thats all i will write for now,,,i am interested to read others views on the training that have actually learned it and what they get out of the training. SO nexus, you will have to wait a bit.
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    It makes me mad when people say I turned and ran like a scared rabbit. Maybe it was like an angry rabbit, who was going to fight in another fight, away from the first fight.

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    Hua To's 5 Animal Play

    Can someone point me to a thread or a resource on this form of qi gong? I'm starting to study it right now, but I always like to compare what I am learning with other resources so I can learn any differences/nuances. Thanks.
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    AND, yea, a good bit of it is about whether you can fight with what you know...kinda all of it is about that.

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    I learned about it in the book ancient way to keep fit. Isn't it like the earliest qigong or something? It has a couple of different illustrations f it in the book but don't really know online.
    I do not ever see Sifu do anything that could be construed as a hula dancer- hasayfu

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    Dr Xue Zhi Wang

    Has a video on it which is offered by the magazine of this site.

    The 5 animal play(frolic) is an awesome set of movement that all have a martial root and it is easy to see a tai chi connection in it.

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    Hello boneset,

    There is a book and video companion set of the five animals of Hua To at:

    http://dragondoor.com/

    Happy Practice,

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    Five Animals Frolic?

    Anyone here do the 5 Animals Frolic/Play qigong set?

    If so, what are your thoughts on it?

    Are the animals supposed to be done one after another and if so what order?

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    Are you supposed to only do one animal at different times?

    thanks for any input.
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    I learned 2 versions of these. They were both crap.
    I'm sorry I can't be more positive in my response.
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    Five Animal resources

    5 Animal Frolics By Annie Rose (2009 March/April Wudang Special)

    An Introduction to Hua Tuo's Five Animal Frolics By Jane Qianying Zhao (2009 May/June)

    DVD/Book - Five Animal Frolics (Wuqinxi) DVD with instruction manual

    Music CD - Five Animal Frolics (Wuqinxi)
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    There are variation of 5 animal qigong.

    Based on the basic spontaneous 5 animal qigong meditation (very effective for self healing but required proper guidance), a practitioner would move spontaneously( can be scary) as per his Yang qi deficiency (his sickness). His movement can be mistaken as if possessed by devil if seen by an outsider.

    A stronger movement signifies a weaker qi deficiency.

    The movement can start in any of the 5 animal forms. e.g. "BEAR" movement if Kidbey qi is weak. Once kidney is healthy (cured), the next animal movement starts ( say "MONKEY" form with Stomach problem) and so on until all 5 yang organs are healthy. If yang organs are healthy, yin organs always follow (healthy too).

    Sometimes, a practitioner moves in other forms spontaneously( semi-consciously) e.g. tai Chi, dancing, singing, jogging and all sort. Some may just lay down to sleep.

    Once all his yang organs are fully healthy, his motion would slow down to almost stop.

    Further meditation would enhance qi cultivation (at lower dan tian to move qi along the small circle, (Du & Ren meridians).

    It is a fast action remedy for illness, but require a good sifu guidance and his willingness to pass his qi (if he is capable) to you.

    Qi, jing and shen are all part of qi cultivation esp. in a higher level meditation when you united them all in one.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr9Q7G3TiP4

    This looks similar to what my Sifu does...I'm only allowed to do Bak Mei and Tai Chi as a smoker my breathing is not good enough for 5 animals I'm told like I'm too tense when I float/sink Bak Mei Jik Bo. The younger students don't do 5 animals either I guess because they're working on bak Mei external-fast ging/power. all I've seen the 1-7 year students do is BM and TCC.

    There is one BM student-sifu who has been doing it for 10 years who knows all the fundamental sets of BM he looked like a beginner learning 5 animals like 10 years with sifu and he's still working on basic breathing while moving through various stance postures. Contrasting is Ging with an Older Tai Chi student of my sifu who started TCC at the age of 70 due to high blood pressure he had no prior martial art training until his 70's. He does Yang TCC and 5 animals with my sifu.

    So, Bak Mei students aren't allowed to learn it I guess until they get good at 9 step push-Gow Bo Toi which takes 5-7 years for the tendons to relax enough to match the footwork with the various poses but if you are old and don't know martial arts after 1-2 years of TCC you can learn it.

    This is just how my sifu runs his school but it makes me wonder if it's only good for advanced students and old people because they have less external tension in their skeletal and muscular structures so as they get deeper into the 5 animals their postures relax more and the bodies hormones can do their job making the blood and mind move more efficiently!?.

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    Sifu teaching for a living.

    There is no reason why one shouldn't start 5 animals at younger student.

    5 animals qigong has many variations but mainly focus on breathing and generating qi.

    Your sifu may be reluctant to teach you as it is Chinese tradition to believe in teaching qi to loyal students only after years of following the sifu.

    Also your sifu is probably more specialize at Bak Mei and TCC which are his rice bowl.

    BTW TCC is closely related to qi initiating movement. I believe BM is the same.

    Mixing too many styles would not make a person an expert.

    TCC is a life time learning perfecting day by day.
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