Repulsive Monkey
With all due repects, i have NO problem with anyone disagreeing with me or not seeing things in my way. I DO have a BIG problem with people simply calling me wrong and then failing to provide ay valid explanation.
Im socaratic in some respects and i REALLY dont care about what your 'ideals' are on fighting larger opponents. I also stated in plain english i was quite capable of mopping up my larger partner who is also not as skilled. The one who is better than me EASILY wipes me to the floor. IME if two people are a match in terms of skill then size and strength can become a very important factor.
If you would like to explain chi for me in a scientific way and use this same analogy to discribe how you issue power then i would LOVE to hear it.
Untill then forgive me if i go with basic science.
Force= MASS times Acceleration.
Hence due to pure physics the larger you are and there better your body mechanics the more force you can generate.
You say...
"Totally disagree with you about Yang Cheng fu."
* Would you mind explaining this? Totaly disagreeing is pretty strong considering your not bringing any facts to the table.
"Smaller people like Cheng Man Ching was famed for his skill in being able to generate large capacities of Jin on bigger opponents than himself."
* Irrelevent, my point is that if he was larger he would have generated even more. Its like a whip, the better your technique is the more you generate. The tougher and more refined your actual whip itself is, the more you generate.
"your idea about large bodies generating more Jin cos thats absolute rubbish."
* Next time you use the terms 'absolute rubbish' to discribe something i have written please also take the time to actualy provide a REASON why you disagree.
"Their size had nothing to do with the amount of Jin they issued."
* respectfully i say thats incorrect. Pure physics, force=mass times acceleration. There is no way around this...
If you have another analogy i would love to hear it.
"If that is an external trait then you have proved yourself wrong by saying that internal and external arts are the same"
* Actualy to me the only that makes an art 'internal' or 'external' is the region it comes from and the styles it shared co development with. Ever looked at our actual symbol for Bagua or Tai Chi? Notice that little black section in there? No such thing as a pure internal art.
"I agree being well trained internally is a large factor in sucess, but being large is rubbish, it corresponds to nothing at all."
* Again please provide some direct evidence or factual basis for this claim? If not your just sprouting off dangerously uneduacated opinions which are actualy detrimental to most students development. Ego and over confidence are issues im sure you know this.
"I routinely trounce a class mate of mine who is 3 stone heavier and almost a foot taller than me. His body size is not the issue."
* I do the same thing and stated it, what would happen if your partner was actualy the same skill level as you?
"If you beleive this then I would seriously query your understanding and experience of internal training."
* That is a rude egotistical and outright disrepectfull thing to say. I would question whether you have actualy seriously tested your art at all let alone actualy thought about how to properly use it.
I dont enjoy responding to posts like this especialy not here, please next time at least give your argument a factual basis. Sifu says and chi explanations will get you sqaut with me.
If my Tai Chi teacher who has studied for fifty years and who's linage actualy comes though YCF can explain power generation and body mechanic without resorting to 'chi' then i fail to see why anyone else shouldnt give it a go. His english is absolutely terrible so you have no excuse.
Up and down, forward and backward, left and right, its all the same. All of this is done with the mind, not externaly.
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Shaped dragon and looking monkey, sitting tiger and turning eagle.
"I wonder how they would do against jon's no-tension fu. I bet they'd do REALLY WELL."
- Huang Kai Vun
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). I guess the underlying issue is "what happens when you can get your hands on the other guy, but you can't hurt him?" Well, that's a problem, but it shouldn't be related to the "style" of martial arts, only to your effectiveness. I.e., if whatever you've practiced doesn't work, then it doesn't matter how close or far you are. BTW, it wasn't mentioned, but I think there's a big difference between facing someone who is "large" and someone who is "strong." It's hard to suplex someone you can't get your arms around. Just rambling.
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