Chan Kwok Wai's Buddhist Palm ?

[buddhapalm]

I was wondering if anyone of the Chan Kwok Wai lineage, or other, could tell me anything about their version of Buddhist Palm ?

I have read that, besides other styles Chan Kwok Wai learned Bak Siulum styles and ..........

" the Damo or Fo Zhang (Buddhist Palm) that Yang Yeung Mo added to the system from Tan San's school of Choy Lay Fut. It was a synthesis of both Northern Shaolin's form and Choy Lay Fut's form - a southern and northern mix, which is taught, in either style, in either style is taught as one of the very last forms, if at all."

Is this form unique to Chan Kwok Wai's lineage, Yim Seurng Mo's lineage or Tam San's lineage ?

Who created it ?

What are the first few moves, or what identifying moves does it have ?

I want to see if it is the same as my version.

I have seen Doc Fai Wongs and it is totally different to mine, but am curious as to this other version from Chan/Yim/Tam.

Any information would as usual, be most appreciated.

Cheers

Buddhapalm

[kai men]

Hi Budha Palm! Sorry I didnt realice you had made this question.
I have learnt the form some years ago, Chan kowk Wai teachs this form after you finish the then Bak Siu Lam forms. He first teachs "18 hands" from the style, then continues con what he calls "special forms" as they specialize some kind of skill.
the "Fat Cheung" is two forms in one. The first half is Choy Li Fat, then goes on with a northern flavour form. they appear to be linked (I mean First Choylifat Then Shaolin) but some say that the movements have been mixed.
Anyway, We could see if this is the same form. I have been told that the Choylifat Buddha Palm is from our Futsan Hung Sing lineage, not from Tam Sam. I will have to re-check it but as far as I know the form is the last form in the Futsan HungSing Choylifat lineage (our branch) as we only practice one form from Tam Sam.
May be we can tell each other some movements to see if this is the same form.
Kindest regards
horacio

[kai men]

where is your version from?
sorry I forgot to ask

[buddhapalm]

Hi Kai Men,
Sorry for the radio silence, my computer is down and I am borrowing a laptop. I will respond in more depth this evening.

Merry Christmas all.

Cheers

Buddhapalm

[buddhapalm]

Dear Kai Men,
Sorry for my delay, my computer is down.

Regarding my form Big Buddha Palm (Dai Fut Jeung), it was taught to my Sifu, Kong Fey Sifu by my Sigung Dea Bak Do. My Sigung was from Toisan, Canton and one (or all) of his teachers was Master Ma Kin Fung. My Sigung was born in 1906, so he would have been learning Martial Arts at the beginning of the century. I have not traced yet the source of our form Big Buddha Palm or its style. I had guessed it was a possibly rare Fut Gar form, or possibly a Choy Lee Fut or Hung Fut form. We have many other forms from all different styles it seems, but that is another story and another research.

A rough description of the form is:
- opening
- left hook hand, right palm to front
- step back and left palm to front
- turn to right and left inner slap
- step, right inner slap
- step, left inner slap............

- forward step, hands block like waves then palm
- left grab right wrist
- knee and poke...........

lots of slaps, poke, palms, some small leg sweeps, leopard uppercut and slow like tai chi, focusing on palms and chin na locks.

To me the whole set is very southern in feeling, at least not to many kicks.

I would love to hear some key techniques of your version and if mine sounds similar at all.

Kindest regards and Prospero Ano Nuevidad (sp?)

Buddhapalm

[buddhapalm]

Hi Kai Men,
Is your Buddha Palm form the same as done by Doc Fai Wong ? That one is different from my version.

Cheers

Buddhapalm

[kai men]

Hi Buddhapalm,
No, it is not the same set. I have seen the Doc Fai Wong Buddha Palm Form in a video and it has little resemblance if any.
Regards
horacio

[buddhapalm]

Hi Kai Men,
You say it is not the same set. Do you mean not the same as Doc Fai Wongs or not similar to my forms description ?

Just wondering.

Cheers

Buddhapalm