Umm...no problem.
I really wasn't trying to start a fight.
I dont know why you chose to paint me as some little clown especially after I treated your opinions with respect (being that they are obviously the product of a lot of fighting experience).
I didn't or it wasn't my intention. Sorry you took offense. I already apologized (or attempted to do so, apparently poorly) for projecting past experiences and my exasperation with them w/regards to 'pros and cons' of the systems onto your comments. I'm not really sure what else I can do. We could fight for it!
I would hesitate to call my opinions the product of a lot of fighting experience. One MMA fight and a few hundred grappling matches of various sorts probably don't really count as fighting.
For the record, I practiced judo for 6 years and freestyle and olympic wrestling for 2 years, along with a lot of chinese wrestling and some jiu jitsu and have also spent hours rolling around the ground with marchado and gracie jiujitsu practitioners who have trained extensively in Brazil.
Precisely my point--you have a MUCH better chance of getting your PM to work on the ground than somebody who doesn't do these things--and of getting up....
I am not a starry eyed brainwashed kungfu addict who has no idea about the 'real world' of ground fighting.
Clearly not.
Personally I prefer not to go to ground and I believe there are other methods that work for me.
Perfectly reasonable.
Last edited by Merryprankster; 10-06-2003 at 05:39 AM.
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