geng jak ging BAK MEI POWER

[Fubokuen]

Sui-fuw, to be called a halfwit by the likes of you is emotionally crippling indeed. The attempts to obfuscate your own ignorance through cryptics and pretention has never worked to your advantage and your emotional weakness is obvious. We all know you and clown one are the same computer. We know you aren't a brit, but thanks for the "yank"...

Maybe sometime get alitle "chi" mix in.and door get torn off. oh well! nothing happen then it does.sorry still hurt more tomoro! maybe my momma homescool me into idiot too!Ikeep practice maybe somday presto!raisinbrain and hakka ging! o well! see ya mate! keeep talkin. get nasty wiseman.when FT find youmaybe i come to your grave!

[meltdawn]

Sui-Fuw, interesting interpretation.

Could you please clarify your statement:
" also tun tao foa chum is not that great.it slows the energy but o.k maximase it. but only for begginners and cantonese[also the copulate]"

By stating that tun to is for beginners, are you saying that foundation is not important when you learn more advanced concepts?

And when you state "cantonese[also the copulate]", what do you mean? Are you being a bigot?

In regards to "practicing" to develop ging, you state "grow bamboo,then cut it waist height."
This can be taken many ways, but not clearly. Do you refer to movement of long-thin versus short-thick bamboo? Do you refer to eliminating the weak and leaving the strong? Do you refer to the action of a cut on the middle of the bamboo? Like when you strike with end of staff or middle?

My hak ga master says this is internal. Look at that English word from a different perspective. You can read books all your life, and never "get it". Has to be cultivated on your own, by constant self-examination and close attention to detail. Everyone's experience will be different, or percieved differently.

"Waiting is bad." - Musashi
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[sui-fuw]

t,t,f,ch. do you realise not to set your form to this[in my experience,its an exageration]the cantonese use this[cuplate also]throughout there forms.the hak-ka don't.therefore yours will be a classical mess,and stagnant. and ours grow.i don't expect you to accept this,but thats all you have and i'm sorry it can't help you.of course i can't prove what i say but hey thats life and yes i may be a bigot.
if your teacher is hak-ka then translate this if he can,and meaning please.
YICK DZACK SHUI,
LEONG DZACK SHUI,
NEARR MA-PU GIN,UMGIN YAU

he should know this,but if he doesn't not important.what beats me is that he teaches non hak-ka,not unless hes a con?
sorry the bamboo is to train your"geng jak ging" and it was to f.t not to you or anyone else,but hey your teacher should know,if he is hak-ka so you tell me.if you can't its not important.
sorry md i've only read 3 books in my life can't you tell with my crap grammar and spelling.
but i do listen to old wives tales and also there are no documents outside the hak-ka villages.your teacher should know this too.
your teacher says that it is internal,yes i agree,but thats easy to say not simple to say.i would wager that he has no ging and niether you.
apart from li seow lung who else in the western world your teacher say has ging.or acheived ging.
"waiting is bad" why do you write this?how do you know this?

fuzeball,its an example not a testament.
"shot gun"ha ha
:D :D :D :D you yanks always guns to solve your problems.why do k.f just use your shot gun?

[sui-fuw]

i forgot,your black not american.so you originate from africa.not a white mans equal[who's pretending now] say hak gwai,come kick my a$$.and stop theiving,come on gang banger."shot gun harry"

[billy_pilgrim]

Now do all of you see why we have laws in America prohibiting first cousins from procreating?

I'm willing to bet that a trained chimp banging away on a typewriter could churn out more readable prose...anyone want to lay odds?

[sui-fuw]

did you hear that he's calling you a chimp,chump.yes billy bald-patch,theres no need to go that far.whats wrong no-one to play with your bald pr!ck.

[billy_pilgrim]

I don't know where you get your info from but it's about as flawed as your reason and speech. Nonetheless, it will be interesting to see how all of the black people on this forum respond to your latest outburst. I mean, as if you didn't have enough enemies already...

You really must feel safe in your anonymity, I heard you backed out of your meeting with FT, you've been repeatedly asked to reveal info about yourself, but refuse. You say you got your gung fu from mom, where did the cowardice come from, dad?

[fiercest tiger]

sui fuw,

ok hitting a glass door without it moving but shattering the glass isnt ging, not when speed and timing is involved. that all depends on how think the glass is too!! :(

i dont get the bambo question im sorry MATE! So you guys are here in oz?? :D then i think we should meet up for a talk heh?

now you say that you may not have developed ging, but didnt your teacher teach you right? remember the hakka video and you asked me if my teacher taught me right!

i know one thing ging is felt, not so much seen!

billy you crack me up..lol chimps hahha

fubo- i dont really get his answer but im trying!?

thanks for the answer sui fuw :)

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[meltdawn]

"t,t,f,ch. do you realise not to set your form to this[in my experience,its an exageration]the cantonese use this[cuplate also]throughout there forms.the hak-ka don't.therefore yours will be a classical mess,and stagnant. and ours grow."

Interesting how much you assume.

"if your teacher is hak-ka then translate this if he can,and meaning please."

First of all, I must attempt to understand your spelling, before I go to my master and say "hey, some guy wrote this online, it sounds so important". I think you mean:

Yi je sui
Leung je sui
Lei ho ma bo gin
Ng gim yau

two parts water,
three parts water,
you can stand strong,
five strengths have

What does it mean? You posted it, you teach it. You know it? If yours not good, then why I ask my master?

"sorry the bamboo is to train your"geng jak ging" and it was to f.t not to you or anyone else,but hey your teacher should know,if he is hak-ka so you tell me.if you can't its not important."

You say you Hak Ga, you tell me. I ask twice, save face.

"your teacher says that it is internal,yes i agree,but thats easy to say not simple to say.i would wager that he has no ging and niether you."

Ahh, true "wager"? You think your Hak Ga luck gonna win if you gamble? Feel free to visit his website and ask him. Maybe you get the dragon, maybe the bamboo.

" "waiting is bad" why do you write this?how do you know this? "

I only quote Musashi... obviously that wasn't one of the three books you read. But don't bother, he wasn't Hak Ga.

Siu-fuw, here's one for you:
Cheung lay hoi loi hung yuen
Cheung lay m hoi nguk kay

Hak Ga believe the parent give you the body. Use your mother's mouth to save face.

"Waiting is bad." - Musashi
www.lungyingjingjung.com

[TAO YIN]

Hello everyone!

Cool topic!

I just had a few questions for you guys and gals. I have heard of this ging translated into scared power. I was just wondering if there was any connection between this and say, angry or maddening power? I know thats not what its called, but I am talking about someone just straight up going haywire, you know, NUTZ! Maybe it could be something like psychotic ging??

The reason I ask this is because I knew this little dude at college who was pledging for one of the craziest, meanest, and most psychotic fraternities. I also knew one of the older members who invited me to watch one of the first initiation ceremonies for the freshmen pledges that year. The pledges had to dig a hole 6 feet deep and big enough to fit 10 people in. After they finished digging the hole, each of them had to get in it and stay for 24 hours.

Anyway, after they had been in the hole for about 10 hours I arrived. Not 20 minutes after I had been there, I saw this little dude just straight freakin lose it! One of the members walked over to the little guy and started ****ing on him, saying "whats the matter pledgey, got a little **** on your face?" This scrawny little dude practically flew out of the "grave" cracked this member's sternum (you could hear it) and choked him with the fiercest claw I have ever seen. The most bizarre thing about the whole deal was that it took five, 180-220 pound guys to get the pledge off of the member. They beat the ****e out of him with fists, boots, sticks, and stones. And the next day he didn't have one broken bone, only a samll black eye and that was it. Now the other guy, he couldn't talk for two weeks and make any sound at all, not to mention that he stayed in the hospital for a week because of his sternum. No ****e!

Sorry I put so much. What do you all think about this? Is that ging, chi, adrenaline, or just straight up losing it??

Thank you

TAO YIN :)

[This message was edited by TAO YIN on 09-25-01 at 12:57 AM.]

[sui-fuw]

md sorry your wrong,shui in cantonese is water but not in hak-ka.show face i wasn't aware you could see it. :D still sore because your a woman and a bad one at that? :p your teacher con,not hak-ka

f.t where do you think sam mun ken comes from?its only an example,i was trying to lead you to your own with that but hey you don't accept it.same with the bamboo.i'm sure your si-fu didn't give everything away?

billy so i have enemies?are you one of them?you had 2 pubes and urinated out of one of them.go on a pilgrimage and find some hair :D :D :D
also i haven't been challenge by f.t maybe his students.yes he would kick my a$$,and i would be a coward.
i'm sure you couldn't billy, wanna try? :rolleyes:

[fiercest tiger]

sarm mun kuen or sarm marn kuen? sarm marn is hakka dialect so it comes from hakka ykm has both forms sarm mun baqua and sarm marn kuen! :p

you are correct my sifu didnt give everything away and he was very traditional in his teachings, but i dont understand everything but i try. i dont understand why you post half answers and riddles on hakka or any other art, why give a answer at all if you are so secretive i dont understand it! it makes you look stupid... :rolleyes:

see for a gwalo ive done more then some or most chinese have done in kung fu so im proud of the things and stuff ive done! no bad for a white boy in a chinese traditional system! i tell you one thing if i only knew cantonese i would know most of the things sifu talked to me about! im kicking myself because i didnt go and learn the language and now my sifu is gone! :( but there are people here that give information and are still respectful to each other and thats a good thing. im still learning and im on a life time journey my friend!

help us out and tell us your answer on the bambo i would love to know!

later mate!

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[sui-fuw]

i wuold be proud if i were you,acheiving what you have.but you can only ofer to the gwai lo and cantonese.not to the mandrin,hak-ka or the yogi's thats how we differ.i don't offer anything.i also see that youhave done well for a gwai lo.
didn't you say your si-fu taught you in hak-ka i might be mistaken though?
sorry sam mun ken to us is 3 doors shut[don't you know the principles i mean]
i'm not secretive,i just can't share.

there is no answer to the bamboo.i was hoping that you would say string is missing.
anyway tie string to bamboo,to wrist also.punch and on draw back try to up root the bamboo.then you have this type of ging.

md you half-breed there is no way you your si-fu has ging,why?your postures thanks for the preview and he is not hak-ka.he may know k.f but only classical mess k.f[no lung ying and certainly not pak-mei,maybe little wing chun western way]

f.t on your web a youg lad white shirt black pants has the best stance out of all. impressive for him and his teacher.

[Disciple108]

sui-fuw, it seems i only ever see you on when you're taking the p1$$ outta ppl! ;) I do like your analogy with the door, glass, negative, positive.

Fubokuen, in regard to your first reply to siu-fuw... whatcha tokkin bout willis? :eek:

you two guys are a real laugh. it's both disturbing and entertaining seeing post such as yours :) but so much anger.. and we all know what that great master of "chi" once said... "anger leads to hate, and hate leads to the Dark Side" :p

fiercest tiger, nice to read when you say you have passion for kung fu. if you really love it that much, it's not too late to go learn cantonese if you think it will improve your ability to learn. whether it's more ykm or other styles.

altho' with the comment "if only i knew cantonese i would know most of the things sifu talked to me about!"... hearing the words doesn't necessarily mean understanding ;) Too often the meaning gets lost in the translation.

i know some ppl might disagree but part of kung fu is the chinese culture.. and one part of the that culture to never stand too proud on ones merits. being white, black, yellow, green, blue, pink etc etc is irrelevant in this day and age. understanding the thought process and culture will enhance the learning and interpretation of those funny tones we refer to as cantonese :)

fierce tiger (sorry to look like i'm picking on you :) ), it's disheartening to see a teacher promote such attitudes as "for a gwalo ive done more then some or most chinese have done in kung fu so im proud of the things and stuff ive done!". One step to "being" chinese is always accept that we don't know enough.

respectfully,
Disciple108....

hmm.. ngor num heng dao wa jie lok sui aiya! :p

hoi san ning, ai gar hou :)

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