Ok I think we went over this like months ago.
8step mantis is northern because:
1) I checked out the webiste you gave and wich I saw years ago, it does not say it is southern or claim any llink to southern mantis
2) As a northern mantis stylist I can veryfy that it is northern
3) Traces it's lineage to wong long like all the other northern mantis styles
4) There's 8step practitioners in the northern mantis forum ie stacey ,Paul Lin among others
5) Plum flower never went southern
6)There was a big battle between Shyuns students and other 8step mantis guys (even went to court to I believe) that was publicised in the northern forum
7)The sevent star/tigerstance/hanging stance/etc is particular to northern mantis
I've talked dot many 8step practitioners including 8stepsifu who is no longer a parrt of kfo.
Quite frankly I'm starting to believe you want to make trouble for Master Shyun because of that problem that 8step guys had and that you might have anger towards him sicne we went through this months ago.
If I'm mistaken and you still dont' believe me come to the northern mantis forum and discuss it with your fellow 8step mantis brothers and your other mantis relatives.
8 Step founder Sam Dart was from the Bamboo Forest which is Southern.
Correction the 8step founder was Wei Hsiao Tang and even Master Shyun's site and other 8step mantis sites can back me up on that.
Last edited by NorthernMantis; 10-13-2002 at 10:35 AM.
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