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  1. #166
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    Re: Tibetan Kung Fu Styles

    Originally posted by Firebird
    Who has infos about tibetan kung fu styles ?
    no Hop Gar, Lama Pai or tibetan white crane ; i thing there are more than these styles
    According to my understanding, the only reason we know of these styles is they made thier way to china 2-300 years ago; & it would be rare to find pure tibet gf outside of these, because the tibet gf suppossedly was for high level lamas, & with the chinese cultural revolution most of them were wiped out...& i dont think like say thier was a tibet toad gungfu or something. I dont think if sometrhing like that exists/existed, I doubt it made its way to china.

    So, IMU...only reason we know of shaolin gungfu is because the manchu tok over and this forced everyday chinese to pick up say hungga...wheras the chinese took tibet in 1940-60, plus in the age of the gun= I Assume most TibetGF is Extinct or Seceret!.
    Hope that Helps!?.

  2. There are Tibetan systems that have remained reasonably independent of the lineages that passed thru western, Northern and Southern China (appearing as the Lion's Roar lineages in Han Kung-Fu)

    If you try www.tibetankungfu.com and mail the admin you may be put in touch with people who practice these arts.

    These systems are NOT Kung-Fu, they are uninfluenced by Han arts. Insofar as Tibetan 'Kung-Fu' can be said to exist - the term refers to the Lion's Roar, although some claim that a Tibetan Ba-Gwa exists. The difficulty with that is the Daoist root of ba-Gwa is quite different to the Esoteric traditions of Tibetan Buddhism (Dorje Vayrayana) and of the Shamanaistic Bon-Po.

    So, if you ask about Tibetan Kung-Fu, then strictly speaking you ask about Lion's Roar and its derivatives: Hop-Gar, Lama and Tibetan White Crane, if you ask about Tibetan martial arts:

    "Rang-Soong Dag-Stay",

    then you ask a separate question.

    Tao.

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    tao yin lee :


    i see you got a lot of info about lama pai and his people .
    i am from Spain and i want to connect with people of his lineage but i don't know how or where start .
    Last edited by RAIN; 08-27-2011 at 09:39 AM.

  4. Rain,

    Forms vary enormously accrosss Pai, even those with the same name can be very different. If you mail me, I'll put you in touch with someone who should be able to help you.

    Tao
    www.tibetankungfu.com

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    :)

    this thread started with some interesting information...

    all u hop gar , haap gar, bok hok, lama pai, lion roar (is that sameas lama pai?) people please continue ur informative thread ...

    I for one am interested in more

    take care

  6. They all have the same root: Sing-Lung Lama, the 1st Patriarch of Potala Palace Kung-Fu (Tibetan Lion's Roar Lama martial arts:
    "Senge Ngwa Rang-Soon Dag-Stay Gen-Dun") to South China from Circa 1860, the art itself originating Circa 1426 at Potala Palace, Red Mountain, Lhasa, Tibet; the traditional home of the Dalai Lama's.

    www.tibetankungfu.com

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    <Perhaps a 'pilgramage' to Southern India would answer these questions. >
    u can train at CVN Kalari in orrisa for 6 months it's much like Crash Course(6-7 hrs per day)...

    from my understanding of Tibetan KF it hav influence from India n China both.
    . Marma Adi (vital point - dim-mak equivalent) striking is included in the film, as well as ethnic medicine and a whole range of traditional weapons.
    from wat i hav seen, their(DimMak n Marma) Marma(pressure points) charts are almost identicals.


    from wat i hav seen in kalari it does resembles CLF n some of HsingI movements too(or i was hallucinating )
    it's dieing art...
    . they only used to teach to Warrior Families/caste or brahmins
    . lots of stupid politics within south India itself then with Northern part of india

    -TkdWarrior-
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    LAma Pai sword book from hk

    Intelligent
    Swordplay of
    the
    Thought this might interest people who study lama pai

    http://www.plumpub.com/sales/kungfu/lamasword.htm

    Lama Style
    Kung Fu

    Lo Wai-Keung &
    Yan Sang

    74 pages, softbound

    Printed in Hong Kong this neat little book is EN FACE,
    that is, both Chinese and English versions are
    represented. Not only a nice set with clear illustrations
    but a good book for thos wanting to improve their martial
    translation skills.

    This is a straight sword set AND a short hand set from the
    famous Lama School. Lama is a Tibetan form of Kung Fu
    with various other names and associations such as Hop
    Gar and Tibetan White Crane. The Lama school is a beautiful
    Long Fist style with some rather different theories of body
    relationships. Clear photography. Probably a little too sparse to learn
    the set for most people but a good basic representation of the school.

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    BBear, thank you for that link. do you know any info on the masters in that book?....what lineage etc

    Tao-Yin-Lee, you have any info on that book?.


    james

  10. James, Si-Fu David Ross is your man for that book I expect. His Pai is closer to the line represented by it.

    BTW check out the web site re Grandmaster Ng and Tony Galvin. Tony has supplied more information and some more galleries for the benefit of all Tibetan Pai/Sangha.

    I'm hoping to host information on Dorje Lam as well as Senge Ngwa on the site.

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    Sifu Cheuk Tse

    Does anyone have the contact information for the Hop Gar Sifu Chuek Tse in Hawaii ?

    Please e-mail me privately at teleka@pacbell.net

    I believe he knew my Sigung.

    Cheers

    Buddhapalm
    "In heaven and earth no spot to hide;
    Bliss belongs to one that knows that things
    are empty and that man too is nothing.
    Splendid indeed is the Mongol longsword
    Slashing the spring wind like a flash of lightning !"

    Monk Wu-hsueh Tsu-yuan - Reciting as the Mongol sabers slashed towards him. The Mongols spared him out of respect. For no ordinary man recites a poem facing death.

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    Tibetan arts?

    Anyone else here practice any tibetan styles?
    I myself am a student of tibetank white crane and tiger styles.
    "One hand lies, the other tells the truth"

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    Re: Tibetan arts?

    Originally posted by TibetanCrane
    Anyone else here practice any tibetan styles?
    I myself am a student of tibetank white crane and tiger styles.
    Search for post by Lions Roar! or go here
    http://www.tibetankungfu.com/ Lions Roar!'s web site.

    wm

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    yes, I am familiar with them. Nice guys
    "One hand lies, the other tells the truth"

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    I study and teach Fukien White Crane:

    http://home.austarnet.com.au/tsuruken
    Ron Goninan - Chairman
    KOBGK Paihequan International

    E-mail: tsuruken@austarnet.com.au
    Web Site: http://home.austarnet.com.au/tsuruken

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