Fighting style for law enforcement?

[General Kwei]

I was talking to a couple of Police officer friends of mine the other day. We were talking about martial arts and it was a really interesting discussion. Here is what I got out of it:

First of all, I believe that police officers should be recquired to have rigorous and ongoing martial arts training. Why? Because if you can learn to control and have the skill to control, a situation when it begins to get physical, and it does a lot with policemen, then the issue can be resolved before it gets escalated.
Bottom line is this stops officers and perps from being shot. I am not saying some people arent asking to be shot, just that if a situation gets that out of control, you have to wonder if things could have been handled better earlier on.

Here is another observation these guys made. We all work on a security team at a local venue where we often have to deal with physically violent or potentially violent people. most often these people are drunk and so you can imagine this does not help the situation, and lastly, these people are normally not in groups smaller then 3-4, which poses problems all its own. These police officer freinds of mine pointed out that of all of the members of our team, myself and another member who is a martial artist, do well at resolving situations peacefully, better then the rest, some of which obviously are police officers with their own special brand of training.
My conclusion was that possibly, discounting the chance that the two of us might just be that sort of personality, our martial training gives us confidence in our ability to control a situation from the get go.

What do you guys think?

[Dark Knight]

Go to USJJF.org. They have a Taiho Jutsu program that is a law enforcement program. A couple states have used it as a post certified class. They offer it as part of a cirriculum into higher ranks.

[rubthebuddha]

agreed that they should all have regular training, but it can't be the exact same as the rest of us. police would have to be more focused on restraining than on striking. styles that prefer striking, especially strikes to the eyes, knees, nuts, throat, etc. would be discouraged, as are some grappling styles lately. dealing with a enraged or intoxicated (particularly drugs) perpetrator and expecting them to react the same way as a sober (literally and figuratively) partner can be an enlightening experience. using pain compliance works great on sober people, but get someone who's overly hyped up or out of it and that shoulder lock can easily turn into a shoulder break.

now, that shoulder break can be grouped with the strikes to the vitals in one big area -- lawsuit fodder. blind a person in one eye and the city/state you work for will have civil suit papers on its desk in a week. give someone a life-changing injury to their shoulder and the same can be said.

now where does this put police? well, they are left in a nasty position -- stuff that works great at stopping people, either by breaking a knee or knocking them out cold, leaves their office open for legal problems later. so what do they do?

i think this is the biggest reason behind the increase in using safer and more humane methods of restraint. while a taser is very painful, the pain goes away in a bit and the hair will grow back. this is preferable to having to overcome a criminal in order to arrest them, especially if the officer is alone and/or of less than desirable strength.

okay, i lost focus and am just rambling. someone else jump in.

[TaoBoy]

It seems that here in Australia the requirements are:

- How to beat unarmed protestors with a baton 101
- How to pressure point compromsied, unarmed protestors 101
- How to ride horses over unarmed protestors 101

Get the idea?

[LEGEND]

I think BATON 101 is the best training they have...I saw a bunch of cops break up a hispanic vs. asian fight with BATONs...never saw so many live bodies litered on the floor.

[rubthebuddha]

in seattle, it's broken up into two classes:

1. how to ignore the ******* protestors who are ****ing up the city, and

2. at the same time, how to harass and arrest the protestors who are protesting for social reasons.

[Yung Apprentice]

Who was winning the asians or the hispanics?

[jon]

TaoBoy
"It seems that here in Australia the requirements are:

- How to beat unarmed protestors with a baton 101
- How to pressure point compromsied, unarmed protestors 101
- How to ride horses over unarmed protestors 101

Get the idea?"


Oh... thats so scarily true

You forgot a couple though:

- Ducking beer cans at sporting venues 101

- Shooting unarmed Aboriginals for no apparent reason 101


To any who believe that there police force is a finaly oil machine of stupidity have a listen to this.

Our highway patrol...
Get up everyday, put on leather riding pants and then drive around in a car all day.

[dezhen2001]

leather riding pants! d@mn they must wedgie!

dawood

[GeneChing]

More on Taiho Jutsu.

TAIHO JUTSU – THE DEADLY BUT NON-LETHAL FORM OF MARTIAL ARTS



APRIL 20, 2017 AADITH PRASAD
Martial arts has always held a fascination for some and intimidation for others. Jackie Chan has managed to bring a chuckle or two in his fight sequences. Yet, most combat sequences on the silver screen portray various degrees of brutality. From Krav Maga to MMA, Boxing to Muay Thai, blood and external injury are imminent. However, they turn out to be less worrisome than internal injuries, which have caused massive fatalities in the past. Which is why the Japanese decided to create a deadly but non-lethal form of martial art: the Taiho Jutsu.

TAIHO JUTSU – THE COMBAT SYSTEM TO PACIFY CRIMINALS

From self-defense to sports, from military/ law enforcement applications to entertainment, from a physical, mental and spiritual development to a way of life, martial arts is ubiquitous and eternal. With virtually over 100 forms of combat practices to choose from, the Japanese decided to a create a non-lethal, yet effective form of martial arts to restrain and subdue criminals without injury. In the process, the Taiho Jutsu was born.



It all started during the demilitarized era of Japan, post-WW2. It was a time when martial arts were prohibited. Public violent outbreaks would occur and the Tokyo police bureau were desperate to find a solution. A meeting soon convened with top notch experts for advice: kendoist Saimura Goro; judoist Nagaoka Shuichi; Shimizu Takaji, headmaster of the Shindo Muso Ryu; Otsuka Hidenori, founder of Wado Ryu; and Horiguchi Tsuneo, a pistol expert. Using classical techniques from Kenjutsu, Jujutsu, and Jojutsu as well as modern disciplines such as karate, kendo, and judo, various techniques were incorporated. This new, proposed system of self-defense also gained ideas from a study of Western boxing.

ACCEPTANCE IN THE WEST

Taiho Jutsu eventually became so popular that it met the standards set by the California Police Officer Standards and Training (POST). It also became the foundation for Arrest and Control/Defensive Tactics curricula. In fact, Taiho Jutsu instructors have gone one level above to teach “Force Options” at Military Units all over the world. This form of combat training became particularly popular because of the techniques used. These generally include wrist control, arm control, holds, and various other joint locks. Where a stronger amount of force is necessary to subdue the opponent, harder Karate techniques were unleashed.

But what truly made Taiho Jutsu special was the number of techniques available at one’s disposal. From the standard striking techniques, kicking techniques, and blocking techniques, as well as others like vital and pressure point techniques, joint locks, counter-striking techniques, strangulation techniques, holding techniques, arresting techniques, throwing techniques, and self-defense techniques (counters, escapes, and avoidance) were used as well.

continued next post

[GeneChing]

THE FUTURE OF MARTIAL ARTS?

Conflict is eternal, yet violence need not necessarily be used to solve it. Rather, combat should only be used as a final option, and only when all other means of negotiation fail.

With all the violence being portrayed today, often influencing young minds as a necessary solution to problems, emphasis needs to placed now more than ever on a safer and more disciplined approach to fighting.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR
AADITH PRASAD
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Many of my Kung Fu brothers went into Law Enforcement - a few still serve - and my former Shifu, Tony Chen, taught police combat. I even wrote the MAR+APR 2003 cover story on it: To Protect and Serve: Tony Chen Teaches Kung Fu Secrets to Police. Combat protocols are completely different when you carry a weapon, especially a firearm. Hand-to-hand is discouraged because you don't want the perp to get close enough to take your sidearm. That's even true if you pack a baton, and in traditional martial arts, you see the same notion reflected with sword carrying.

[SteveLau]

For law enforcement, general fighting style that includes strike, grappling and wrestling techniques should be the go. Because quite often a law enforcer needs to subdue a criminal or suspect. He needs to have somewhat control of the opponent before he can handcuff him.




Regards,

KC
Hong Kong