ewallace said
The fact that it's 1000 years old and is or was taught to the CHINESE military is irrelevent.
Hey there Ewallace ....I drew first blood, I deserved that.

Ok, I actually do think it is relevent. Not like you may think, but Xingyi is direct, powerful, and effective in real battle. That is why it was used so long. It works. And...the other nice thing, it is a system that can be developed to a very high skill level over a lifetime if one so chooses that path. Chinese in this case does not matter, just time proven techniques and skills.

Now as to getting up to speed fast, I tend to agree with you here, although I am not sure what you mean by non-traditional? Chinese Chin-na is as old as everything else. Jui Jitsu and Karate are traditional right? These systems have tons of restraining techs in them or am I missing something here? What new styles are you speaking of?