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    I thought its for the art of throwing small objects!?

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    Here is the link were i got the information on this style of Hakka Kung Fu
    http://www.asiawind.com/forums/read....&i=2806&t=2766

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    Chow Fook's students

    If anyone is instrested Johnnie hui came from H.K. in the 70's and stayed with chan wah at Edmonton AB. Johnnie was the #1 student in Canada at the time and He taught the dragon and bak mei style to Chan Wah. Johnnie Hui now lives in Vancouver and well worth the look up as he is the first or one of the first to teach the dragon style in public. He taught at the green dragon School. His teacher was Chow Fook.

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    Haka... first and last story:

    http://media.putfile.com/haka87


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    Jesus that is bring back the past or what?

    I think they all had the same teacher.....

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    Chinese Proverbs

    Hi bigbear1 - please check your pm.

    Interesting for this topic to be resurected after 5 years...a good lesson for everyone on these forums - "make your words sweet, not sour, because someday, you may have to eat them".

    I have an article written by JH - very well done!

    Cheers - kevin

  8. #158

    Talking

    in reply to post #13. from what i understand through jook lum lineage is that spm is not a hakka art in origin, though, it was introduced to the hakka dock workers through the poison snake cheung yel chung. from what i understand, som dot is the creator and also a monk though i do not know thru what temple he belonged.

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    :)

    TTT

    for anything/everything interesting with "Hakka Arts"??

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    Kun Tao is Minan (Hokkian)'s term for Quan Dao. Some of Indonesian "Kuntao" are Hokkian, some are Hakka. It depends on the area. Some still have traceable lineages to China, some have been in the country for too long time and might evolve and adapt to the local needs.

    The traceable lineages go to Wuzuquan, Nan Taizuquan, Baihequan, Nan Tanglangquan, etc.

    West Borneo is big in Hakka population and hence Hakka arts are common there.

    In places like North Sumatera, Jakarta, and Central Java, it is more southern Fujian, the Wuzu and Taizu are strongly Taizu oriented.

    In East Java, it is big in Fuqing's population and the Wuzu and Baihe are more Fuzhou Baihequan oriented.

    Of course, this is a generalization and not strict.

    In addition, the teachers often do not reveal the lineage until the students are rather advanced. This is to avoid the wrong usage of lineage's name. Hence, the generic name, "kuntao", is used.

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    The All Black Haka is the best and most feared. Fact.

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    hakka styles?

    are there rare and old hakka styles? and what are their names?

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    HAKKA who's who?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iay3p...eature=channel

    What styles use short power with the PI fist and is Henry Sue a real Grandmaster?. I don't know anything about Hakka styles except that it's easy for frauds to make money promoting phony videos and Southern Praying Mantis has nothing to do with an actual Mantis...

    What's the 411 on the Hakka styles who's running the show in all the branches and how many are there?.

    SPM and Chow Gar are they different? I only really know the history of CLF, WC and Hung Ga Hong Kong related family styles.

    I would wiki the history of the Hakka but there are so many frauds out there why waste my time
    http://en-gb.facebook.com/posted.php?id=123007574378224

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    Chow Gar TONG LONG (Chow Family [Southern] Praying Mantis) and Chow Gar (by the 5 Chow Brothers) and completely different systems

    Chow/Chou/Jow/etc

    Henry Sue brother of Malcolm Sue were both students of Nat Yuen who was a major person introducted Chow Gar Tong Long to Australia in the 1950s

    Chow Gar is one of the Main systems of SPM.

    Henry's tong long has changed to his own method/system of chow gar tong long and is no longer a direct part of Ip Sui's CGTL line.

    The form you showed is Sam Bo Jin with slight change from Ip Sui's line.

    Henry Sue's School - The Chinese Kung Fu Academy
    http://www.chinesekungfuacademy.com/
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    Expanding a bit on what 5th brother said, most Hakka systems were family systems and as such they tended to be "OK" with personal interpretation within the system.
    Chow ga is no exception.
    The main lines of SPM are:
    Chow Ga
    Chu Ga
    Jook lum ( there are a few lines within Jook lum)
    Iron Ox

    Of course you will see variation in methods and training and even the forms WITHIN the very systems and more so from system to system.
    As an example:
    The SPM I picked up and I am still working on was from the temple in Macao and it is heavily laced with Hung Kuen.
    Psalms 144:1
    Praise be my Lord my Rock,
    He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !

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