Yip Mans 4 that he taught it all too!

[reneritchie]

Jimbo - Yuen Kay-San and Yuen Jai-Wan learned a set from Fok Bo-Chuen, who was fairly well known for his knife skill.

RR

[Jim Roselando]

Richster!


Was it a set or was it some simple san sao sets with the knives?


See ya,

[reneritchie]

A linked set (To Lo/Tao Lu).

RR

[diego]

Originally posted by diego



http://www.emptyflower.com/xingyiqua.../chicken02.jpg

So, this is a left kneeling horse, with a right garn sao.

http://www.emptyflower.com/xingyiqua.../chicken03.jpg

Here is the transistion move.

http://www.emptyflower.com/xingyiqua.../chicken04.jpg

So, now the wieght is on the right leg, and the left knee is bent, and the heel is raised.
His, Right garnsao is defending at his right backside, & is a obvious example of, your guys wing chun reverse-gumsao's,
in your sillimtao, ie...Wiping behind your butt.
Now, His Right foots toe's are facing, directly to 9o'clock, we have them,... directly to 6 or 7o'clock!, ie...Pigeon-Toed!.

http://www.emptyflower.com/xingyiqua.../chicken06.jpg

This, is done with his wieght on his left leg!. if this stance was shown on the rightside, then it would be a perfect example,
when to do the garn sao!. In this case, the left hand would wipe behind the left side of your butt!, & it works as soon, as
in this case...The wieght touches down on your left foot!, but for my first post... As soon as you plant your right foot in a pigeontoe... " with your left knee bent or not!," you are in a coiled-one-legged stance; & now you are in a safe position to attack with your garn sao; beneath his thigh or kneecap, etc. Also, it works good, with either a knife hand, a beak hand, or a gumsao heel palm!.
Also works with a backfist!.

Some, Basic LongFist Strike from The Kneeling-Horse:
So, your opponnent faces you at 12 0'clock, & then executes a right front kick:
Step with your left, directly to 9 or 10 o'clock (avoiding the kick) Then, step in with your right foot basically into a pigeon toe stance. Now, if
you were to freeze this motion, you would be in a pigeon-toe, but all the wieght is on the right leg. Here, you can garn sao a kick, with your right, or you can pak sao a right punch with your left, and punch or palm the ribs, by striking under your paksao!. The main feature is, your left knee is coiled thierfore, covering the groin...you can lift the left foot, or bend the left knee, and lift the left heel, for the kneeling horse.
The main feature is the footwork, the best description is, it's like a driveby shooting...you move left, and strike right!.

Now, your guys kneeling horse as shown in the Moy Yat picture, with the knife hands at the centerline, on-guard..
As i mentioned, this is a fundamental stance/posture, in the hopgar i do.
Left kneeling horse, with right hand as the lead, as shown in the moyyat picture:
Bring your left, i think wu sao hand...left knife hand, wich gaurds the ribs, in the pic!. Bring your left hand, directly behind you so it is parrallel with your right knife hand,
Inline at the shoulders!.
With your right, you can: Index and Middle Finger Longfist punch, with a vertical or horizontal fist, to the face, ribs, or groin/bladder area's.
You can do a right overhead, with the index and middle knuckles to the temple, or use the second row of knuckles like a leopards paw, raking down the centerline of the front, or backside of the opponnent, ie bottom of neck to groin, or back of neck to hipbone!.
Backfists, to the temples, face, and groin. Raking claws, ripping from right to leftside of the face, with your lefthand; and following up with right Hook punches
(hook punch, is like a overhead but it moves in a striaght line, like if you were to hold a coffee mug, and take a sip. Now if you were to wipe that mug, in a slapping motion, across someone's face, this is what the action of the hook, or wiping fist in hopga, best resembles!) to the jaw, or temples; Hooks work good agianst the ribs also, if you can get him to hunch over!.
Hammerfists, agianst punches...striking the biceps. hammers to the temples, face, & groin, also to the back of the neck, agian if you can get him to hunch over, these are good.
Elbows, work good to the temples, and in the kneeling stance. I have seen a application were, you like, left pak sao the outside of the right knee, then right horizontal elbow to the inside of the kneecap; from a left kneeling horse... then you step triangle-inbetween his legs, and do another right horizontal elbow to his right hip, and the left does like a paksao, behind his belt or butt area?...seen this on a video, so im not to sure about its detials...looks cool though!.

The footwork, for my hopgars kneeling horse, is pivots side to side, or triangle shuffling footwork. If your in a left kneeling horse, then you lean to the left side, we dont stay in the center...its like a western boxer slipping a punch!. If you were in a left kneeling horse, your right empty leg would step over to 3 o'clock, and the toes would grab the floor, then you would switch to a right kneeling horse by pivoting on your right toes, and centering your wieght ontoo your right foot.
Or from a right kneeling horse, step/hop with your left, two and a half feet forward, and one and a half feet to the left, and then your right follows, and now you are in a left kneeling horse, & this is the shuffle triangle step!...in this step you can do: as the left foot steps in, hit with a left wiping backfist to his left temple, and as the right knee drops and settles into a left kneeling horse...slam a right over head punch agian to his left temple!.
Or you can pivot into a right kneeling horse, and left hammer to his groin or downward backfist works good...now wipe that left backfist to his left temple, and now do the shuffle step with your left, into a left kneeling horse, and slam a right nailing backfist to his left temple.
Or, you can wipe/rake with a left tiger claw, from the leftside of his face, to the bottom of his right chin, while pivoting into a left kneeling horse, and slam a right overhead to his left temple; now with your right fist, form a inverted tiger claw, and grab his groin...now rip up his centerline, groin to neck, and shuffle into a right kneeling horse, and left vertical punch to his solar plexus, hit with the index and middle knuckles.

Now, all these punches, either have the wu sao or knife hand, gaurding at the neck, ribs or groin. Many times, they are done with the rear hand-stretched to the rear, counterbalancing your wieght, so you can put your whole root into your strikes, hence why they are termed Longfists.
We, have many closerange techniques, parrallel to wing chun also.

[churn-ging]

I have gotta ask, who is Mak Po?

And does he teach in the Bay Area?

If he does, does he have a school?

[diego]

A Final blow, finishing technique, that would work great after like a chain punch, is shuffle into a left kneeling horse, and slam your right palm to his solar plexus...We actually have a technique that would blend with wing chun, because it starts off in close, as you:
vs a right punch, pivot to a right side cat stance, with all your wieght on your right leg, and use a double palm deflect, left palm to the inside of his forearm, and right palm to his bicep. Now recoil your right palm, and then redirect it to the left side of his face "your left forearm still checks his right punch." Now, bend your left knee, tucking it into your rightleg...then place your wieght onto your left toes. Quickly step "this is like a Half-Step!" your right-foot 6inches to the right, into a right kneeling horse, and left palm to his solar plexus or sternum " your right wu sao, gaurds at your left ribs."
Now shuffle into a left kneeling horse, and right palm to the left side of his face...the two and a half foot forward shuffle, with putting your shoulder into the longpalm will most likely knock him out...unless your olive oil " agian, your left wu sao gaurds at your right ribs!."


http://www.emptyflower.com/xingyiqua.../chicken07.jpg

This is the Twist-Stance. This or a front kneeling horse is what we would follow up with, after a right back kneeling horse, with a right garn sao, vs a right front kick!.
So, in this instance, we follow up by stepping with your empty wieghted left leg into the opponnent, touching the toes down first, then rotating, first into a left side horse, then into a either left twist stance, or a left front kneeling horse stance.

Examples of handstrike, followups: http://www.ngfamilymartialarts.com/ten_elements.htm

Left Hand, would smack the groin, with a inverted-palm, in a left-side
horse stance...& then it would rip-up the torso, and you would end up in a Left Twist-Stance;
& if you were to rip-up the centerline, with a tiger claw... you could use a right uppercut to the groin, or bladder: http://www.ngfamilymartialarts.com/i.../10el_jong.jpg




Or, from the left side horse stance, Wipe with your tiger claw, or palm-- Counter-Clockwise, from beneath his leftchin,
up & over to his right temple!: http://www.ngfamilymartialarts.com/i...ts/10el_na.jpg "So, your opponnent is in this right stance, and he does a right kick. you do the step and garnsao attack, then your left snakes into your opponnent, forming into a leftside horse. In this pic, he is in a right side horse, and opp is in a right stance. Also he is doing a shooting arm bridge, with his right. If he was in a left side horse, with his left hooked around the back of the opponnent's right ankle, and if his left arm was wrapping counterclockwise, instead of his right wrapping clockwise, then this picture would show exactly what im talking about. Also, you can rake the face, or grab the shirt!, its just done with a invertedhand grabbing motion!."

Now you can use a Right Wiping-Hammerfist: http://www.ngfamilymartialarts.com/i...ut/sam06sm.jpg
this is almost what im talking about, except you would end inline with your jaw or neck and not your gut!.

wiping from the left to right side of his face.
Or use a right inverted backfist:
http://www.ngfamilymartialarts.com/i...s/10el_sau.jpg
to the left side of his head...You can use these, all while Entering, a Left Twist Stance.



http://www.ngfamilymartialarts.com/i...s/10el_gwa.jpg
this is the nailing backfist

http://www.ngfamilymartialarts.com/i...s/10el_biu.jpg
this is the wiping backfist



http://www.ngfamilymartialarts.com/i...s/10el_kup.jpg
this is the Hook/Wipe Fist

http://www.ngfamilymartialarts.com/i.../10el_ding.jpg

this is the second elbow i mentioned, your leftchecks at the back, and your right hits the right hip, and not the gut as shown...this move is a takedown.





http://www.ngfamilymartialarts.com/i...epts_image.jpg

this is that wiping hook punch to the ribs

[diego]

One final Technique, from the kneeling horse. If you use a basic outward footsweep, wich follows the footsteps of the shuffle step, i mentioned. Left steps out, then your right triangle steps clockwise, behind your opponnent's right leg, and press at his chest with your left knifehand...Another usage of the kneeling horse dropping motion, is very usefull right here, as your left knifehand after the push, continues to check at his chest or sternum, and you drop into a left kneeling horse, so your right knee is tucked at his butt, then you slip a Right spear hand to the soft spot in his throat...the drop gives one Humongous inch power, if you time it right!.

Now, how in the heck is the kneeling horse used to defend a sweep?. Also here is the tibet white crane pic of this move. i cant tell is his right knee connecting his opponnent's leg, or just his fist is hammering?: http://www.whitecranegungfu.com/GL2.jpg