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    eighteen hands of Bak Siu Lam

    Hi everybody! I want to know if other schools of NSL train the 18 hands form. I found that they do in GangZhow, as GM Lai GanQing, who was YSM classmate, showed the form to my students in 1998. His students showed Luo Hap (Liu Ho) too.
    Kindest regards
    horacio
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    The 18

    Hi Horacio,
    Northern Shaolin and I were comparing lyrics here a while back - use your serach function to see them all. We went through all the forms we had lyrics for. It would be great if you can dig those up and add to them.
    Here the thread on the 18: http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/foru...threadid=12438
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    Hi Horacio,

    I too have trained in the use of Ku Yu Cheung's Northern Shaolin 18 Hands. See lyrics listed below:

    Enjoy,
    Hui Clan

    18 Hands
    (Sup Bot Shou)

    * The 18 Representive Categories of Combative Methods of Attack *


    (1) Gum Lung Hien Jow - Golden Dragon Offers its Claws.

    (2) Yuk Dai Wan Yue - Jade Belt Wraps Around Waist.

    (3) Fo Pow Chung Tien - Fire Cannon to the Center of Heaven.

    (4) Suen Shui Tui Jau - The Boat Flows with the Water.

    (5) Lien Wan Cheung Gik - Continuous Charging Supreme.

    (6) Poon Tui Chai Tui - Scooping Leg, Stomping Leg.

    (7) Pek Kua Gen Shou - Splitting Scissors Hand.

    (8) Gwei Wong Poot Sien - Ghost King Waves its Fan.

    (9) Gum Sing Kua Qot- Golden Star Hangs on a Horn.

    (10) Lok Sing Poon Yuet - Falling Star Chases the Moon.

    (11) Ou Tan Hui Tek - Hooking leg, Back Kick.

    (12) Lien Wan Fei Tek - Continuous Flying Kicks.

    (13) Dok Pek Wah San - Splitting Wah Mountain.

    (14) Yan Long Chut Hoi - Swimmimg Dragon Exits the Ocean.

    (15) Che Lun Fan Kua - Cart Wheel Turns Over.

    (16) Tang Lang Bo Sien - Praying Mantis Catches the Cicada.

    (17) Lo Shu Poon Gun - Old Tree Wraps It's Roots.

    (18) Chien Hui So Hung - Front Back Sweeps the Ground.

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    Very cool Hui Clan!

    You should add those to our lyric list on the other thread. Let's fire those up again - it's such a cool piece of research that works so well here on the forum. How about you Horacio? We've shown you ours, now can we see yours?
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    Sorry!

    Gene, I am afraid that I haven't the lyrics. Living far away from my teacher's home (he lives in Brazil, I live in Argentina, its a two hours trip by plane away) made me miss some important info. I have many things (the chinese writings of all the forms' names, the chinese writing of the 128 movements of the yang tai chi form, etc) but lyrics is something to be discovered yet for me.
    I know my elder fellows have many , I will research and when I get them I ll post them here.
    Thanks a lot
    Horacio

    PD in the meanwhile I will check your lyrics and compare them with our forms.
    Horacio Di Renzo
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    no sweat Horacio

    Now you can use our lyrics! After all, we're all BSL family and these lyrics are meant to be shared throughout our clan.

    As you'll see from the comparisons that NS and I made, there is some variation, but not too much. A lot of it I would attribute to translation variations. If you do get your lyrics, that would really cool to add them to our threads here. Even your comments without the lyrics would be insightful.
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    The eighteen techniques of Bak Siu Lam have no relation to the 19 Lohan Fist practiced at Shaolin, right?

    Just wanted to know

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    19?

    We shaoliners like 18, so pretty much every shaolin system has a grouping of 18 techniques, symbolic of Bodhidharma's alledged fighting set.
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    not to mention, 18 is a cosmic number.

    these lyrics are cool though, if recited outloud like poetry while doing the set, well... that's a performance art!

    *wink wink* you musician types.

    peace
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    Just like Bruce

    When he's whoopin' the gangsters in Italy, he's calling out his moves. Now that's style!

    Actually in Kendo you have to call our your cut when you strike or you don't get the point.
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