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    MaFuYee Guest

    anybody care to share some secrets?

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    [This message has been edited by MaFuYee (edited 06-23-2000).]

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    YuenBaio Guest
    I have trained in Jujutsu, Kenpo and am now in Kung Fu. The interesting combination of experience that I have has developed a very effective ( as I see it ) technique. The few things that I do in a spar are:

    1) Stay close to the opponent and press on him IF he/she is larger than I am, but always have defending motions to his punches, crescents etc. Always retreat until there is one opportunity to use the opponent's momentum against them.

    For punches below shoulders and above solar plexus, I block with the regular tensed forearm to the forearm, twist my wrist slightly so I can bear it on the forearm and jerk it. Since this is a less known movement, it catches the opponent off his balance and he is pulled foward. He then attempts to regain balance, his concentration on his other hand is nearly gone. What comes next is sort of optional - sometimes I throw a knife hand at their kneck, behind the ear or raise my knee into their solar plexus.

    1b) I never ever ever move in close range to a smaller person. They have immense leverage and can make you eat the ground if they can roll you over them. Its freaky. Once I saw a 5 year old beat down a 9 year old using his leverage. whoa

    This isn't a part of my technique, but this is something I learned that I thought was pretty cool. It requires split second reaction. When someone punches toward your midsection, with their arm almost full extended, you punch their knuckles. The conflicting forces will feedback through their arm and either break their upper arm or their pectoral girdle ( collar bone ). But obviously this is only in real life situations. Your sparring partner wouldn't be too happy with you if you broke his arm like that.

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    MaFuYee Guest
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    nospam Guest
    I'm sorry, but you folks seem to always bring up these single 'devistating' strikes. I have to question your experience and/or advice when comments liek these are made.

    I am all for strong individual technique, and sometimes things might playout where the opponent drops- it has actually happened to me on several occasions..not on me [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] But it strikes me as naive whenever I read these responses.

    My favourite technique? Although I see myself as being a dynamic fighter, I can be seen executing a shoot load of leopard strikes to either the solar plexus or throat. I am from (most commonly known name) Buck Sing Choy Lee Fut, where this technique is emphasized muchly.

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    mantis108 Guest
    Hi all,

    Good going guys. Bravo, Mafuyee, well said.

    Peace to all

    Mantis108

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    Slater_E Guest
    I'm thin and quick. I'm also pretty flexible. Long Armed too.
    I like to back off and retreat till they 1.) spend lot's of energy, and 2.) make a mistake.
    after they slip up I really really like any long arm motions. Crane arm movements, and shaolin long arm boxing stuff. long arm double punches are a personal favorite.
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    Slater_E Guest
    btw......long arm double punches....they start all the way behind you and swing up into the oponenets chin, or if your low enough they go into his groin.
    they can also be done side to side instead of up and down. this time you'd go for temples, nerves, neck...etc...

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    Slater_E Guest
    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nospam:
    [B]I'm sorry, but you folks seem to always bring up these single 'devistating' strikes. I have to question your experience and/or advice when comments liek these are made.

    ...it strikes me as naive whenever I read these responses.[B]
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    you know nospam, I'm sure you could pull a really hard strike with your elbow to the face right? well what if you hit their temple just as hard instead of their cheek bone. the blow would be enough to crush the temple and kill your oponenet. also have you ever pushed on your throat a litte? notice how soft and painfu lit is. a nice leopards paw to teh throat will crush your windpipe. the lungs suck all teh blood down and you suffocate. also what about strikign teh neck--internal bleeding, the liver--internal bleeding, the heart--if hard enough it'll shock you inot a heart attack. it's not naieve to talk about single blows. all you do is find a weak point and go for it.
    and not to be rude...but haven't you thought about this?
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    YuenBaio Guest
    I agree with slater on his comments -

    Also, I have yet to see a contact spar last minutes upon minutes. The ones that I usually see are at the most 2 minutes long.

    But one thing I don't agree with what Slater is thinking are all those moves. First of all, you have to get around the opponent's defenses before you can even reach near his temple or neck or kidneys. It is rarely in a battle that you can take out someone on the first move.

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    nospam Guest
    I stand by what I've said. If ya disagree. Ya disagree.

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    Guest
    I don't really have a "favorite move" I think that would make me far too predictable! I do have a favorite mind-set: I'm not too tired or pre-occupied, I'm warmed up and have stretched out,and have gone through all my kuan, so I feel balanced. That's why Open mat days are my favorite, this is when I do my best too.

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    nospam Guest
    tigerlilly,

    It is good that you can achieve that mindset through martial arts, but are you saying you need to do all that to 'do your best'?

    Just curious.

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    Kenji Guest
    I think when nospam commented about these "single devastating" strikes, he's not questioning the damage that it would do but how useful is it in actual combat situation. Yes an elbow to the temple would be very deadly but its also very hard to actually land an elbow to the temple at such a precise location when the other person is also intent on hitting you.


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    Guest
    I said favorite mindset,nospam...No of course not.I think sometimes I'm a better fighter when I'm tired (less thinking and more action).

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    dooder Guest
    I like the side kick a lot. If you really practice it you can hit very close or far and you can through it from lots of angles high or low with pushing or snapping power. I like leg kicks too. It seems like a lot of people don't know how to block them well. I always catch people with heel hooks to the head after I've faked with roundhouses to the head. I like cresent kicks high in close because people don't see them coming. I probably don't sound very southern with all my high kicking, but I have a diverse backround.

    [This message has been edited by dooder (edited 06-19-2000).]

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