If I wanted to read a book by Nietzsche, which one would be the best? I see he has a few books.
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If I wanted to read a book by Nietzsche, which one would be the best? I see he has a few books.
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Ecce H0m0 is a great starter for freddy.
It's not his best but it'll ease you into his style and personality.
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Penguin Classics
"A Nietzsche Reader" By R.J. Hollingdale
This is sort of a short collection of his philosophical works. The ISBN # is 0-14-044-329-0
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IMO you're better off with The Genealogy of Morals. If you can get it in an anthology with The Birth of Tragedy, as a couple of publishers have done, so much the better.
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I've only read one of his works: Thus Spake Zarathustra
It's been a year or two and didn't appreciate the philosophy at the time. Still, I'd recommend giving it a read.
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What is Zarathustra? I've seen that word a bit.
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"Zarathustra" is the German version of the name "Zoroaster". Zoroastrianism is an old Persian religion believed to be one of the first if not the first forms of monotheism. It's also speculated that a concept of good/evil like the one we get from Christianity first arose in Zoroastrianism. There are still quite a few Zoroastrians around, but you have to look carefully to find them.
Nietzsche wrote a book called "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" ("Also Sprach Zarathustra" in German) which illustrates in allegorical form some of his philosophical (if you can call them that) positions. It's definitely *not* a good introduction to Nietzsche's thought. It's obscure and elliptical, and doesn't accurately reflect Nietzsche's best qualities since he spends the whole book lampooning Biblical language. It's mediocre at best as far as his works go, and very poor in terms of an introduction to Nietzsche's thought.
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Also, if that reader Desertwingchun2 suggested is the one I'm thinking of, it's organised according to topic and gives you a good sense of what Nietzsche thought on a variety of subjects - ironically, though, the way the book is layed out is the antithesis of the way Nietzsche intended his work to be experienced.
If you're after the "authentic Nietzsche experience", get the Genealogy of Morals (Or one of the other complete books mentioned in this thread apart from "Thus Spoke Zarathustra") - if you want to get a good idea of what Nietzsche thought on a variety of topics, get a reader like the Hollingdale one.
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Zarathustra, however, looked at the people and wondered. Then he spoke thus:
Man is a rope stretched between the animal and the Ubermensch- a rope over an abyss. A dangerous crossing, a dangerous wayfaring, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous trembling and halting. What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not a goal: what is lovable in man is that he is an over-going and a down-going.
"Cyanide is a dangerous chemical. That's why it is a crime to possess it without a peaceful purpose," said U.S. Attorney Fitzgerald.
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Thus Spoke is good.
Also look into Beyond Good and Evil.
Check out C.S.Lewis's Heaven and Hell as a side reading. A very good book that could be read in a single sitting.
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Kind of different philosophy,nihilism (as to refuse to believe in a thing) I do not know much about Nietzhe but Iīve heard he had some kind of a connection to nazis or something like that,and other strange stuff.
He committed suicide as far as I remember...
Great quote of his-"Which does not kill,makes one stronger" will stick to my mind though.
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Beyond Good and Evil is the only Nietche I've read. It was interesting, but it definately didn't make me go out and buy another of his works.
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The Nazis wished he had a connection to them. Nietzsche's sister was a rabid anti-Semite, if I remember rightly, and she forged a number of letters which suggested he would have supported them.
Nietzsche had nothing but contempt for anti-Semites and anti-Semitism. He saw it as a symptom of societal decay. He wasn't a big fan of nihilists either.
Again, steer clear of "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" - it's not indicative of Nietzsche's work.
Also, Ford Prefect is correct.
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