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  1. #16
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    As a serious note... now I'm really busy, so I only get the chance to train in the morning before work.

    I'm training for tone, but mainly strength and speed, so I'm concerned with eating the right stuff (a light carb-based meal before, and protein and fructose product after).

    1) How do you morning guys arrange your pre-training eating time without getting up at really stupid times?

    2) And what do you eat?

    3) Is there anything (complex carb-wise?) that you could eat the night before that'd still give you fuel for the morning, so you don't have to eat before the workout?

    4) What do recommend for just before?

    BTW I try to keep processed foods to a minimum and take only evening primrose as a supplement.

    Also posted on the health forum.

    Thanks in advance.
    its safe to say that I train some martial arts. Im not that good really, but most people really suck, so I feel ok about that - Sunfist

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    Training 'till you puke

    is a bad idea.

    All joking aside, I have decided for myself it's masochistic and in the long term detrimental. It could be just because of my internal slant on things but I believe you should always train with absolute intensity but should stop maybe when your 95% exhausted. You should still have a little bit left. Like not eating till your stuffed. You should stop just slightly before then.

    The training till you puke is no more manly than dinking 'till you puke.

    Folks brag about that too.

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    Re: Training 'till you puke

    Originally posted by omarthefish
    is a bad idea.

    No ****.

    The training till you puke is no more manly than dinking 'till you puke.


    Maaan, I can dink all night long without viagra and I've never puked!

    Folks brag about that too.
    You would if you could!!





    I don't believe I posted that under my own name.

    er...

    Dawood.

    its safe to say that I train some martial arts. Im not that good really, but most people really suck, so I feel ok about that - Sunfist

    Sometime blog on training esp in Japan

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    Training or bulemia? You decide.
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    Maybe you guys are right, but when asked how long one should do zhanzhuang (standing) for, my teacher's Chinese female senior student, who's incredibly nice (unless she's sparring or is insulted, when she's crazy) and can't be more than 5 ft. tall or something like that replied "until you fall down".
    Probably not good in the long run if you do it everyday, but I've almost collapsed in zhanzhuang because my legs couldn't support me anymore, and it was overall a good experience (after zhanzhuang I collapsed on the floor).

    I'm not sure what kind of benefit you get from standing (or doing any training) until your body completely shuts down--i.e., you really can't walk at all, or you're on the ground and can't move. Probably no benefit at all.
    "Duifang jing zhi meng ji, wo fang tui zhi ce fang xi zhi."

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