training your fists

[45degree fist]

Any tips on how to increase ones punching speed and strength. I currently use a wall bag and also train with resistance bands. what other training methods are apllied in the WC world.

[anerlich]

If you're talking speed, sprinters, the fastest humans on the planet, generally work technique, resistance training (e.g. with the bands), plyometrics and overspeed.

For the technique of punching fast, ask your sifu. Relaxation of muscles not required to punch and reduction of wasted motion are usually seen as important attributes.

Resistance training - weights, resistance bands, etc.

Plyo's - lots of websites, try google.

Overspeed - the opposite of resistance, like towing swimmers through the water. Turn your resistance bands around, secure them to a wall in front of you and punch with the band pulling your punches forward. Also works well for linear kicks. Be a little careful as it is easy to injure joints if you are too gung ho - same with plyo's.

If you can find an Impax bag or similar, that measures force and/or reaction time, this will allow you to measure the results giving you a good indication of what works and what doesn't.

[yenhoi]

1 second using one or two hands?

[Ish]

2 hands i would imagine unless you only have 1.

[TkdWarrior]

i see someone voted for 6+ strikes per second...
so mind raising ur hand ,...
just curious...
i can do it 2-3 that's it...
-TkdWarrior-

[Grendel]

Why is this thread called "training your fists?"

[IronFist]

I just did 18 punches in 5 seconds so that's like 3.6 per second. I don't know how strong they were, but I also just woke up and haven't eaten in a while.

IronFist

[fa_jing]

Originally posted by TkdWarrior
i see someone voted for 6+ strikes per second...
so mind raising ur hand ,...
just curious...
i can do it 2-3 that's it...
-TkdWarrior-

Roll punches, dude. Not like the punches you're used to.

[JaRmEz]

when u say roll punches do you mean chain punches is it just a different translation or somthing cuz i can do 2-3-4 chain punches a second. i find the best way to train strenth is to punch twice with one arm at a taget and then use a power strike with your other arm this helped me get rid of my unbalanced arms dunno if it will work to make both ur arms REALY strong but i would just say practis makes perfect

[curtis]

This is the wingchun forum.RIGHT??
I find that most wingchuners can throw 6 punches per sec. that is if thay have trained for any time. and have been tought properly,

I was told that Bruce Lee could throw 8 per sec. (thats beyond me, but I know one or two who might be able to do it TOO.)

Tkd .
speed is a type of power in its self, if you try for any more power than whats natural, you will only slow down your punches.

What I suggest is train for speed,first. lose and natural.
then YOU can train for power .

Power is an art in its self. and should be explored with a opened mind.
Dont TRY TO mix speed and power together.at least for learning purposes.
Good luck in your training.

C.A.G.

[PHILBERT]

I can only do maybe between 4 and 5 in a second, but thats if I am relaxed and my muscles are not tired.

[YungChun]

Originally posted by TkdWarrior
i see someone voted for 6+ strikes per second...
so mind raising ur hand ,...
just curious...
i can do it 2-3 that's it...
-TkdWarrior-

It's called Chain Punching, a drill and technique used in Wing Chun. 6 per second is a good number for an experienced student - of course quality vs quantity does come into play.

Here's what they look like coming at you

http://www.dallaswingtsun.com/PortugueseWTguy.mpa

This clip always cracks me up. (not my lineage)

[Grendel]

Originally posted by YungChun
It's called Chain Punching, a drill and technique used in Wing Chun. 6 per second is a good number for an experienced student - of course quality vs quantity does come into play.

Here's what they look like coming at you

http://www.dallaswingtsun.com/PortugueseWTguy.mpa

Yeah, great. He didn't connect with a single one of his flailing punches. IMO, a good Wing Chun person would have knocked his on his azz.

If throwing a bunch of untargeted, unfocused punches is what readers of the Wing Chun Kuen forum thinks is Wing Chun, then we're all a bunch of Wing Chun wannabees.

Look beyond the pointing finger to what years of proper training in the art can produce. Trying to be powerful and fast is a sure path to Wing Chun failure. Stick to Tae Kwan Do if that's what you want to develop.

Regards,

[YungChun]

Originally posted by Grendel

Yeah, great. He didn't connect with a single one of his flailing punches. IMO, a good Wing Chun person would have knocked his on his azz.

If throwing a bunch of untargeted, unfocused punches is what readers of the Wing Chun Kuen forum thinks is Wing Chun, then we're all a bunch of Wing Chun wannabees.

Look beyond the pointing finger to what years of proper training in the art can produce. Trying to be powerful and fast is a sure path to Wing Chun failure. Stick to Tae Kwan Do if that's what you want to develop.

Regards,

Easy there big guy! No one is/was touting this as good Wing Chun except perhaps the people who made the clip. Moreover I don't think anyone here is saying that you need to be able to punch a dozen times per second to have good kung-fu, and on and on.

Like I said: That clip always cracks me up.

[PHILBERT]

YungChun, are you by chance a member of that school? I train under one of the 3 instructors mentioned on the website you posted (dallaswingtsun.com) and just was curious if you did too.