What kind of qigong do you study?

[Cheese Dog]

Firebird, Only been studying hung gar for a little less that two years and haven't really learned anything about sounds they use yet.

Dfe , I always start with the embracing the tree exercise for several minutes before going on to whatever qigong I'm doing. As for the rest I do 5-element qigong and internal iron palm on alternate nights, Hatha yoga 2-4 times a week, and katas and forms 4-6 times a week.

[dfedorko@mindspring.com]

I do Qigong 18 (Yang style), Zhang Zhuan, Ba Duan Jin, One-Finger Zen, Dragon Gate, and Sun style Tai Chi Chuan. Qigong 18 I do every day and alternate the other routines. The Sun Form is great. Bottom line , it is walking Qigong and I do it everyday. For the Iron Palm, you mentioned that you do Internal Iron palm Qigong. Well, I am a practitioner and have been for some time and I was wondering if you could email me and explain what type of Qigong you do for the Iron Palm. If it is guarded I understand - no explanation necessary. Have a good day.

[fiercest tiger]

I also do iron palm and will be the warriors way magazine coming out soon.

My still has 3 levels, 1st level is heavy hand, 2nd is vibrating and imprint palm, 3rd is cotton palm. All with chi kung and herbs and internal fighting form.

whats your IRON PALM LIKE DF?

FT

[dfedorko@mindspring.com]

I just break 2x8x16 blocks with my palm, back of the hand (not backfist), knife hand and fist. I do Qigong but nothing as specific as was mentioned for Iron Palm in an earlier reply.

[David Jamieson]

I don't practice all gongs together.

my sifu did teach me a nei gong regimen which is several gongs one after the next. they target the entire body and in some of the gongs they really focus on minutia.

But for the other gongs, I generally practice them each for each.

cheers

[Cheese Dog]

Dfe, sorry. Been out of town for a couple of days. As to the iron palm I do, there's no need for secrecy. I'm still at the beginning stages so you're probably much more knowledgable than I.

Anyway, this is my routine:

Stand in sanchin stance, hips tucked, back straight, head up, tongue on roof of mouth.
Breath in, bringing palms up to chest, breath out slowly while extending palms straight out. Visualize pushing a vast weight away from yourself and as your arms return, imagine the weight is pushing your arms back, but stay relaxed. (I see two huge blocks of stone)
Do this 36 times.
Bring your palms down to your dan tien and concentrate on your energy center for 8 breaths.
Then do the above exercise two more times, only pushing out to the sides with your palmstrikes the 2nd time, and straight overhead the 3rd time.

Then you would hit a makiwara, wall bag, etc. (I use a simple telephone book on my kitchen counter)
Palm, back of hand, knife edge, ridge, and fingertips are all trained 36 times each. With tongue on roof of mouth, breath in as your arm goes up and out as you strike. Start very light.

After training, massage the hands and apply jow or circulate your hands in very warm water to improve circulation and speed healing.

If you have any info or advice, I would appreciate it.

[phantom]

I am just curious, do any of you do golden bell? If so, do you practice it on the same day that you practice your other chi kungs? Thanks in advance.

[jun_erh]

dfe- c0uld y0u tell me a little ab0ut dragon gate chi kung? They have a vide0 0f it at the st0re I g0 t0 and was thinking 0f picking it up. It features Ge0ge Xu. 0ne 0f th0se "china's living legends" tapes...

I read s0mething ab0ut it's c0nnecti0n t0 tai chi via chan sen feng's 0riginal instruct0r 0r s0mething. Kinda s0rta a big claim there
http://users.erols.com/dantao/dragongate.html

[dfedorko@mindspring.com]

jun_erh

Dragon gate Qigong, in my opinion, is an advanced form of Qigong. Before doing Dragon gate I had been practicing Qigong for, at least, five years. Dragon gate works the whole body internally as well as externally. The tape is by Dr. Gordon Xu and it is a good tape, in my opinion.

Cheese Dog

Thanks for the info that you shared. You might try this and see if you like it. Purchase a 3 foot high stool. When you do the routine you mention in this post use the stool where you would use a makiwara, phone book etc. Do everything you mention with the exception of the following with a towel and the stool;

1 - Apply Dit Da Jow - Place towel over seat of the stool;
2 - Strike the seat 50x with each hand part apply jow.
3 - Remove the towel, again strike the seat with each hand part 100x. WHEN YOU SLAP THE STOOL DO NOT TRY TO PUT YOUR HAND THRU THE SEAT. SLAP RELAXED AND CONTROLLED (EASY). STRIKE THE SEAT FROM, AT LEAST, FOREHEAD HIGH. perform the exercise in a horse stance. The height depends on you/your height in relation to the height of the stool. Your legs will get a workout. Keep me posted. When you put Dit Da Jow on you should not wash your hands in warm water (my opinion). You are wasting the Jow (my opinion).

[Cheese Dog]

Dfe, many thanks for the information!

Oh, I meant you use jow OR the warm water method. One of my instructors instructors uses only massage and hot water after training iron hand and he is 60 and has no arthritis or joint problems thus far.