Originally posted by fa_jing
2. NHB is clearly not the best laboratory for determining a style-vs-style debate. Neither were Hong Kong rooftop fights, from what we've seen. In the case of NHB, the body types are so different from what is needed for Kung Fu. Yet, of course, that body type may be able to take a smaller Kung Fu guy's best shot then dump him on the ground -- but my point is, most of us do not want or can not have a body like that.
That type of body is not a pre-req for mma. There is no requisite body type anymore than there is one for kung fu...
Another thing I noticed was that even minimally skilled stand-up guys are able to keep grapplers off with punches, and two grapplers may stand up and trade blows for a while. I'm surprised that the combatants are not shooting double-legs at each other more often- since we seem to hear all this talk about how great shooting is - -these are some of the top wrestlers in the world, yet have trouble closing the gap sometimes against a striking defense.
they are fighting other mma guys - crosstraining killed the "grappling is superior" concept years ago. Shooting is great. But like eye gouges and phoenix eyes, they are not the be-all-end-all
The other reason that NHB isn't the best laboratory is that the conditions and the situation are too different from a street fight.
That's true. Right now though there's nothing closer to it other than actually being in a street fight... While it's not the best laboroatory for self defense, it is tops for testing yourself. same goes for boxing, san shou and thaiboxing. If you are trying to test yourself against others, sport fighting is where it's at.
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