:-(

[Crimson Phoenix]

Guys...

First of all, sorry for adding my contribution to the off-topic silliness...

I love this place...even if I don't post, I come back regularly, every day, to read what's going on...except one or two in here (no, I won't say who, don't ask hehehe), I like you all as well, regardless of the disagreements we could have (heck it's a forum after all!).

But I am beginning to feel uncomfortable...I was used to this particular general forum discussing anything BUT gong fu, but lately, with the events we all know, it has become a very antagonistic place to wander in...
The vast majority of thread cusses France, and the French...even in non-politics related threads, I always stumble on jokes or allusions aiming France or whatever related to it...
And frankly, it makes me sad...most of the threads I come across eventually end up telling me how I stink because I do not shower or that I am a ***** because France got raped during WWII, or I don't know what...

The same people will then tell you about wude, and how racism is bad, after flaming away in joy at what they think I represent...they will also wonder why some arab (or even not, for that matter) countries hate them so much, not realizing they trigger and maintain the same vicious circle of hatred in their own heads against a country they have no real reason to hate...

I just felt like venting this...I used to feel good here, I used to enjoy it...now, I'm starting to be real bitter and sad...sorry, yes I am French (even if my links with the USA are much stronger than what most would imagine here, and if I am genetically more non-French than the contrary). Sorry, yes I love my country (who doesn't, really?). Yes, you could also label me as a filthy democrat if you want.

But you're really, for a lot of you, making this place very antagonistic and uncomfortable to me...not that you should care, but I felt like letting you know...and no, I'm not whining...call it, if you prefer, a mere attempt to slow down an emerging group-dynamic that has become very nauseating.
Life won't stop because of that, but really it is sad to see what that once nice place is becoming...

[rogue]

You're right Crimson, it's gone from debate and discussion to rantings and name calling. Good natured ribbing about being American, British, Texan, French or Canadian has gone on to become nasty.

[Kristoffer]

"""The same people will then tell you about wude, and how racism is bad, after flaming away in joy at what they think I represent...they will also wonder why some arab (or even not, for that matter) countries hate them so much, not realizing they trigger and maintain the same vicious circle of hatred in their own heads against a country they have no real reason to hate..."""


This is so true. All politics can make me feel down too. (specially since the dominating americans can be hard to discuss with sometimes ) don't be down man, go out n enjoy the sun.

peace

[SLC]

It won't make it much easier but try to see that the people that get ugly do so from weakness.

[Crimson Phoenix]

thanks for the warm words guys...

actually I should really not complain too much, as I am perfectly guilty of indulging in these political posts as well here and then...

anyway, may the buddhas smile on you all

[dezhen2001]

an honest post my friend

u just gotta weather these out - but the group herd mentality does make it difficult (i know form when it was all on me and islam).

if it makes u feel better - im a Scot and France and Scotland signed something called the "Entente Cordiale" to rally against the english oppressors... ill stand with ya

dawood

[apoweyn]

Nothing really to say except the thumbs up, Crimson.

[count]

J/K
Don't feel bad Crimson, ignorance comes in all nationalities...Including American! (You know who you are!)

[KC Elbows]

Just keep in mind that despite it all, one of your namesake foods, french toast, is a hugely popular breakfast in America, and the only native american toast, texas toast, is just another name for fat bread.

Also, continuing on this theme, despite the fact that they weren't necessarily a french invention, french fries are potatoes in a pleasing shape that holds its crispness, whereas american fries are just little strings of potatoes somewhat damp with grease.

Country style decor in america means lots of blue with happy cows all over whatever item is in that decor. Country style meals are often made with beef. Apparently we find no joy in killing unhappy cows.

Fat. Greesy. Happy cow meat.

There you have it. Make of that what you will.

If that doesn't help, just tell detractors "Like you wouldn't have surrendered to the Germans. Oh, I'm sorry, you only do as we do in Indochina. I forgot."

[KC Elbows]

ghthomason, we chose to be there, France didn't make us. We had things to gain by being there, and if our politicians hadn't totally lost that one for us by losing the people, we might have won. Now don't be so sensitive, seeing as there's already 632 threads to complain about France on here.

EDIT- the comment was meant as a pot/kettle sort of thing. I probably should have avoided the whole thing and kept it light, sorry CP.

[Kristoffer]

""Apparently we find no joy in killing unhappy cows."""

speak for yourself

[KC Elbows]

EDIT: All right, I'll leave my earlier comments, they were just meant to point out that most americans don't think america's perfect either. Didn't mean to take the thread on an ugly tangent, that was not my intention, though there was just a little bit of the trouble maker in those posts.

[Budokan]

Whack off to some porn. You'll mellow out and feel better, I promise.

[KC Elbows]

For the brits, wanking would suffice.

[Crimson Phoenix]

LOL KC...dun worry mate, I'm used to thread hijacking here...

Budo, thanks for the advice...however I only lose my precious qi to some breathtaking exotic babe hehehhe

and by the way, french fries are very likely to be...french...there are records from the 17th centuries of guys cutting potatoes in slices and frying them, selling them at the bridge called "Pont Neuf"...hence the name "pommes Pont Neuf" (don't be fooled if you ever see that name in a restaurant, it's really only fries LOL).
It's true!!

I don't know if the French kiss really is French though...