thai kickboxing vs akido

[bob10]

Someone mentioned earlier that in a ring space is limited and in the street it isn't. I don't believe this to be the case. Unless you are attacked in a field, you are likely to have a lot more restrictions on your movement in the street, in a bar, in a cinema, in your house. Not only objects and furniture, but other people.

If an art relies on a certain set of conditions to function well, then you should ask questions.

[shaolinboxer]

I wonder what the purpose of this question is. Since it it obvious, I think, that answering it is impossible, I wonder what other questions it begs. It is also obvious, I think, that both arts have definate merit and can lead to real combat skills if desired.

Is Muay Thai somehow better than Aikido?
What criteria are we using?
Do we have any statistical evidence, or are we just relying on anecdotal evidence?
What is our goal in practicing either of these arts?
Under which teacher do we plan to study (aikido schools are often very different from one another)?
Are we interested in a combat skill, lifestyle enhancement, goal setting, self assessment, intellectual development....?
What actually happens when I use a Muay Thai skill?
What consequences does it imply? What rewards?
Does practice eliminate the fear which brought me into practice in the first place, or enhance that fear, or never directly address it at all?
When I have trained in either style for many years, what will I do when encountering a strange situtation that threatens my well being?

Maaaaaaaaany factors.

[Unstoppable]

"Is Muay Thai somehow better than Aikido?"

YUP


J/k








Ya I think its better for Fighting and Real world (LOL CAN YOU SERIOUSLY IMAGINE A MT GUY GETTING BEAT BY AIKIDO FLIPS ROTFLMAO) but Aikido is Good Business for cool throws (with cooperation) and Japanese culture.

Its all depends on what you want to TRAIn for i think. Both have Good Advice for different Paths, Aikido more mystical MT more powerfully fighting and working against people who don't cooperate.

JUST MY $2.

['MegaPoint]

AikiDO is not meant to handle trained fighters. It is a means of gentlemanly self-actualization with some protection benefits. The term "Do" should tip you off. Even hard sparring karate styles like Kyokushinkai or Chinese combat sports like San Shou, can't hang with real Thai Boxers. It's been proven over-and-over again. You see no "Do" or "philosophical way" connotations in those names either.

As far as kickboxing goes, Thai Rules Muay Thai is the apex. I like Savate and Shidokan, too. The ploumb, as pointed out by Sev*, is a very good infighting technique for one versed in knee strikes and leg kicks/sweeps/destructions. It can also be used as a standing neck crank, and it hampers concentration greatly! Grappling counters are the best options for loosening the ploumbers grip, hahaha! Didn't mean that bad play on words. This includes trips, hooks, hip throws, "spearing the ball" slams, single and double leg takedowns, etc.

I don't doubt aikido teaches the theory of these counters, but it just doesn't practice them on resisting partners. Especially hard as nails Muay Thai fighters, ready for bone-on-bone strikes and blood splattering.The truth can really hurt! Muay Thai may be the most external of all striking arts. The epitome of Wejia!!!

[Unstoppable]

Ya that's kinda what I treid to say but You Said it better.

[SevenStar]

Originally posted by fa_jing
I won't study any art that causes physical harm to the opponent. The worst damage that my art can cause to an assailent is a permanent removal from the wine & cheese club.

wtf?! you trained mantis and wing chun...

[Vapour]

Aikidoka not practicing on resisting partner is not correct. At high grade, you get attacked for real and you apply aikido with real speed and force.

However, the rule is that one defend by doing aikido technique and other attack. Danger is more to attacker (uke). When aikido technique are applied with full force, some serious injury will result if you don't know how to flip in direction of throw or lock. I once had a go at it and try to clinch my senior instructor. I was violently thrown. Aikido specialise in breaking opponent's balance so I say it again but you don't want to attempt to clinch aikidoka. Injury among high grade is not uncommon.

As of MT is better than aikidoka, we already set the rule that both practioner train equally hard. Once should realise that high standard of MT fighter being due to intensity of their training. If you attend class once a week, you get your arse kicked whether you are doing MT or Aikido.

[LEGEND]

KHUN KAO...this is HEMAN. LOL.

[SevenStar]

TTT for fa_jing