Question about groin strikes_no trolls

[Golden Arms]

If you are training to fight, you should learn how to protect that area, just as they should as well. No need to blast them there if you can help it, but I dont hesitate to hit there or aknowledge someone if they catch me there, its just like jabbing at someones eyes. Hard to see, really hard to block, and ifthey dont get used to it and how to deal with it, they may get a rude awakening one day. Just my $.02

[Guile]

Originally posted by Golden Arms
If you are training to fight, you should learn how to protect that area, just as they should as well. No need to blast them there if you can help it, but I dont hesitate to hit there or aknowledge someone if they catch me there, its just like jabbing at someones eyes. Hard to see, really hard to block, and ifthey dont get used to it and how to deal with it, they may get a rude awakening one day. Just my $.02

If you are training to fight, I agree.

[Shadowboxer]

Robin,

If they go there you can go there. Just try to match their power.
It's probably best that you talk with whoever you are sparring before hand and agree upon if the target is "legal" and how much power to use. Explain to them that it hurts (to whatever extent it does). You really don't want them to treat you any differently than another male in the class because if you ever have to use your skills your attacker probably won't pull any punches. I haven't sparred any females yet but I asked about it and was told to treat them like everybody else. And, like everybody else I'm careful. I always intend to strike female students, even if they are beginners. Sometimes I make contact with their breasts but I don't apologize because I don't want them to feel that makes them different in a MA sense. And they make contact with my cup when they throw that knee to my groin.

[Oso]

I only have 8-10 students depending on how you count them.(they move really quickly sometimes). Again, I'll be open 2 years this may. After the first female student started about 6 months after I started class I've had a least 1-2 out of the 6-10 since then. BUT, I had 2 women in monday night and they seemed to get a kick out of it so they may stay. But, they said they could only come on Monday's due to church on Wed.

my sifu's school usually had about a 1-4 or 1-5 ratio of men to women. I don't know but that sounds higher than normal.


I don't plan on chest protection being mando for over 18 but will have them available for use.

[Robinf]

Oso,

Sounds like those two women have good potential to stay.

We've always had a problem retaining women. I stay because I love kung fu and I've been with the school for 9 years--I just automatically go there at certain times of the day.

It does hurt considerably more getting hit in the breast than the groin for me, but I'm pretty fast at avoiding or blocking hits to the chest, and I've built up a tolerance to it.

Your sifu's school sounds like it does have a pretty high ratio of women. How many students total, do you know?

Golden Arms, Guile,
I do agree with you guys that if you're training to fight, then you should train to take care of your entire body. So, I am getting good practice. I just found it odd that they only made contact with me there and they pull back when sparring another guy.

[Oso]

I never kept up with the total enrollment but in the 3 years I was his senior instructor a big night would have 25-30 people in line but usually it would be 15-20. This was in the 6:30 class for 0-3 year students. There was a 4:30 beginners class as well as an advanced class. plus kids and tai chi.

[Vapour]

Would this site help?

http://www.fl.net.au/~church/bbsite/index2.html

[Vapour]

I found better site.

http://www.kt.rim.or.jp/~tantan/

Dont miss the "Women Beat Men" section. Not Work Safe. Sorry.

[Laughing Cow]

Robinf.

In my class we are about 60/40 men and women.
Our rule is:
"What is good for the goose is good for the ganter".

My style like many others practice "groin area " strikes, but I prefer to target the bladder.

IMO, for any attack you learn you also need to learn the counter.

[shaolin kungfu]

Iron crotch could make this groin strike problem disappear.

[Guile]

Better buy those tapes on the links we see

[wushu chik]

In all seriousness...either tell them how you feel, or hit them back! Those are basically your only 2 choices!

If you're gonna spar with guys, you're gonna get hit like a guy. If they're not hitting each other in the groin, and they're hitting you in the groin, it's probably because they don't realize that it hurts a woman to get hit there. Guys will protect their groin more than anything, and women usually don't look at this area as a big pain section (althought it does hurt bad when you get hit there).

If it's just you being uncomfortable that they have their hand there, then it's a call you're going to have to make. I just don't understand the statement "It doesn't bother me to get kicked there, just their hand there". Because, in sparring, it's all about getting hit. They're probably using that area as an attack area because you're not blocking it and it's a good shot! They probably also don't realize that it makes you uncomfortable to have them hit you their either. Just say something to them, I'm sure they'll understand.....

Otherwise...just hit them back and then while they're on the floor in pain and tears and screams like you've never seen are coming from them...lean down and whisper "You like that?? Well, then don't do it to me".

Either or, it's your call....

~Wen~

[Robinf]

wushu chik,

I posted here to learn more of why a guy would make contact with a woman there. Is it carelessness or is something more going on beneath that? I realize it's more than likely just carelessness.

shoalin and vapour,

lol!

Thanks guys for all your help. I consider the matter closed.

[SevenStar]

Originally posted by Golden Arms
If you are training to fight, you should learn how to protect that area, just as they should as well. No need to blast them there if you can help it, but I dont hesitate to hit there or aknowledge someone if they catch me there, its just like jabbing at someones eyes. Hard to see, really hard to block, and ifthey dont get used to it and how to deal with it, they may get a rude awakening one day. Just my $.02

I don't put much stake in groin shots in fights. I've seen them used - and had them used on me - and the pain doesn't REALLY kick in until after the fight's over and the adrenaline rush is gone.

[Guile]

arent you sooooo HUGe that your thighs block them anyway