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    Question Push or Hit?

    What's difference between push and hit?
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    Up and down, forward and backward, left and right, its all the same. All of this is done with the mind, not externaly.
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    Impact
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    I would include range or proximity to opponent as a factor also.

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    Effect?

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    hmmm

    One attacks by severing the root and displacing someone the other intends a directed force into someone.
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    push or hit

    One moves the opponent, the other does damage.

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    ****, push a wall, and hit a wall, and tell me what's the difference =/ What a weird question is this lol
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    Re: Push or Hit?

    Originally posted by Antistati
    What's difference between push and hit?
    Since the answer is too obvious, I think you had more specific question in mind. Can you clarify your question?
    Engrish does not mine strong point.

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    Push or Hit?

    Since the answer is too obvious, I think you had more specific question in mind. Can you clarify your question? [/B][/QUOTE]

    when I do "Brush knee twist step", one of my hand make "ji" force.
    I think this force may be hit or some times push.

    I wonder whether "where is different between Push and Hit"
    Last edited by Antistati; 04-21-2003 at 04:20 AM.
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    The power curve and intent.

    An internally powered push has the intent (thing being pushed) ****her away (the back wall for example when pushing a person) and the power curve is longer so it basically picks up the person and throws them.

    An internally powered punch has the intent within the person and properly executed (fajing) the person does not move and all the power is transferred to their innerds. I said fa-jing, because the power curve is very short. Instant power and then instand relaxation.

    The movements are pretty much identicle. Brush-knee twist step can be done as a push - longer power curve and intent ****her away - and the person will be thrown. Or your intention could be their innerds/spine and fa-jing (very short power curve) and then it is a strike with massive internal damage.

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    The system is buggy.

    I said ****her away - f - a - r - t - h - e - r.

    It put ****her.


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    that ****ing sucks **** **** ****
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    Greetings..

    Push.. power applied after making contact..
    Hit.. power applied prior to making contact..

    Combination.. in brush-knee, upper hand finds target finger-tips first (contact), then, exploding from feet/legs through waist/spine drive heel of hand into target as you sink into front-weighted root (heel of hand hits).. finally, the front leg pushes the hip/spine in a rotation toward the contact hand (left leg to right hand or vice-versa) in a push which begins the roll-back/deflecting block transition for another brush-knee..

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    Perfect description!

    If we add a little icing, brush knee can even be a little more intense.

    If you block the opponent's right punch with your left hand from the outside in, step behind his center line with your left foot/leg while simultaneously kaoing with left shoulder and striking side of groin area/fold with the initial left blocking hand (brush knee) and follow up with a right hand palm strike to the area below the center of the chest (Just as taichibob wrote) you have another variation of the application. If you don't want the chest/heart area, strike the head/face.

    You now have kao, punch/finger strike, and push and/or palm strike with heel of hand and you can throw in some "secret death point" striking. If you placed your left leg behind his centerline, he will be on the ground even if he choses to retreat. Also to generate the power, you are completely relaxed and must employ a medium depth posture since much of the striking power will be generated by the leg/kua/waist area.

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    Last edited by RAF; 04-22-2003 at 07:15 AM.
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