I wanted to bring a productive thread to the forum concerning kiu sau. HFY aside from having Chi sau training has a distinct and focused Kiu sao training dealing with understanding the realatonship of Time,space,and energy. I also find that chi sim has kiu sau as well dealing with this realationship. Both address combat from the different ranges as well as proper energy and position. I would like to open a discussion on kiu sau and what roll it plays in WCK. I personally believe that it is the starting point for learning how to use the bridge against the grappler, kicker etc.... with the use of the bridge with out entering into the proper conditions for "chi sao" offering the elements of real "live" energy reactions and interaction with an opponent or classmate. What do you think?