Nyc Schools??

[Brad]

I have had people from his school come to us and other traditional Kung-Fu schools because they don't teach any application of their forms.

which monk?

[MasterKiller]

Probably Yan Ming. It is well reported that he doesn't teach fighting applications in his forms.

[freedom76]

I hear they are now auctioning monks off on ebay. Now everybody can have their very own (whether it's a "wushu" or "traditional" monk is just luck of the draw). Heck, I've heard that there really aren't ANY monks. It's all just a gimmick for a new Warner Brothers kung fu flick coming out this summer called Angry Golden Monkey Gets Revenge on Whiney Student.

[norther practitioner]

The monks are all fakes...... they are just holograms....lol

[Guile]

Holograms?

[freedom76]

Now it's all gonna come out.....

[mortal]

I train with Hengxin 440 Laffayette. Come to the class and ask for Anthony. try it free and see. the website is Shaolinkungfutrainingcenter.com

[Royal Dragon]

Question, do the Monks teach the traditional Kung Fu, applications and all, if you specifically ask for it? Or do you get Modern Whu Shu no matter what? If it's all Modern Whu Shu, why bother with them?

[MasterKiller]

When some classmates of mine went to Houston to study with Shi Deshan, they told me they were getting traditional training. Wushu is an extra class that you have to pay extra for; however, fighting is an extra class, and so is qigong. So, the basic package only includes forms and weapons, as far as I know.

When we competed against the Houston Temple (Deshan's) at Taiji Legacy, a lot of their students only competed in the traditional categories as well.

[phoenix-eye]

For what it's worth I've done a couple of seminars with Shi Guolin's equivalent in the UK - Shi Yanzi.

He taught us the first part of Xiao Hong Quan and did explain applications of the moves (and they were extremely practical applications).

He then spent quite some time on fighting techniques - takedowns etc. I suppose you could say this was San Shou type stuff but it did build upon the techniques shown in Xiao Hong. Which, when you think about it, is pretty much the purpose of the form (to show you the techniques which you then build upon).

Also, he spent much time on the traditional concepts of power generation etc. Very much geared towards fighting.

My personal opinion is that this "monk" was actually very combat focused rather than Wushu based.

I've no idea about the US monks but don't necessarily believe the Wushu hype. Yanzi is pretty mean - no way would I mess.

Cheers
PE

[mortal]

Traditional or wushu doesn't matter. It is how hard you train.
For the record I never learned any "hands on fighting" with my monk master. Funny though, when I went to Sifu Grados school and sparred i did extremely well to say the least. I still train there every Saturday as a supplement to my primary fake wushu training. lo
Good luck with your "traditional training"lo
Anthony

[richard sloan]

WHAT IS UP?

Hey nice to hear you are still at it. VERY interestig comment re: the sparring...

Hope all is cool.

-sloan brother no.1

[shaolinboxer]

Well, I've toyed around with the NY monks a bit. Go to their schools and see what you think.

They are, if nothing else, entertaining.