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    bodhitree

    Your very welcome, glad I could help.
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    buying herbs?

    Anyone have experience with this company?

    www.seaofchi.com

    It seems like they have a nice selection of premade jow as well as raw herb recipes to make your own. Or, you can buy them seperately if you have your own recipe. Interesting selection of other TCM remedies also.

    Anyone have any other recommendations of where to get these types of ingrediants? I want to start making my own jow to save a few bucks as well as learn a little something along the way.

    Thanks
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    hmmm... sign me up for one of those FAT (phat?) catalogs!

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    I got the standard catalog in the mail and it looks good. I haven't received the martial arts catalog yet. That's the one I'm really interested in. If I don't get it soon, I'm going to request it again.
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    I've always been suspicious of OTC pre-made herbal supplements

    #1: They seem too cheap, given what they say they contain.
    #2: They don't deliver the kick of real herbs.
    #3: They can't be fresh.

    The bottom line here is to always get your herbs from a proper herbalist. Don't just read about the effects on the web and head out to your cheapest vitamin supplier.

    FDA Finds Majority of Herbal Supplements at GNC, Walmart, Walgreens, And Target Don’t Contain What They Claim – Instead Cheap Fillers Like Wheat And Soy Powder
    January 3, 2016

    The lack of regulations in regards to herbal products helps Walmart, Walgreens, Target, and GNC to take full advantage and sell the public supplements that do not contain the herbs on the label.

    The New York State attorney general’s office conducted an investigation into store-brand supplements at four national retailers — GNC, Target, Walgreens and Wal-Mart. The investigation found that these giant retail stores sell dietary supplements that do not contain the herbs specified on their labels. Moreover, many of these supplements included potential allergens which were not identified in the ingredients list.

    Normally, all these stores deserved their cease-and-desist letters which requested them to stop selling these products. These letters, first reported today by the New York Times maintained that “Contamination, substitution and falsely labeling herbal products constitute deceptive business practices and, more importantly, present considerable health risks for consumers.”

    We will now explain the findings of the investigations of these products in more details below:

    Products by Walmart, Spring Valley brand:

    Echinacea
    No echinacea or plant material was found in the supplement

    Saw Palmetto
    Garlic and rice were found in the product
    Some samples contained small amounts of saw palmetto

    Ginseng
    No ginseng detected
    Instead, rice, dracaena, pine, wheat/grass and citrus were found in the supplement

    Gingko Biloba
    No gingko Biloba found in the dietary supplement
    Instead, the product included rice, dracaena, mustard, wheat and radish

    St. John’s Wort
    No St. John’s Wort found
    Detected garlic, rice and cassava

    Garlic
    One sample showed small amounts of garlic
    The product included rice, pine, palm, dracaena and wheat

    Products By Walgreens, Finest Nutrition brand

    Echinacea
    No echinacea detected
    They found garlic, rice and daisy

    Saw Palmetto
    Contained saw palmetto

    Ginseng
    No ginseng found
    Detected garlic and rice

    Gingko Biloba
    No gingko Biloba detected
    Rice was found in the product

    St. John’s Wort
    No St. John’s Wort found
    Detected garlic, rice and dracaena

    Garlic
    No garlic found
    Detected palm, dracaena, wheat and rice

    Products by GNC, Herbal Plus brand:

    Echinacea
    No echinacea found
    rice found in some samples

    Saw Palmetto
    One sample contained the clear presence of palmetto
    Other samples contained a variety of ingredients, including rice, asparagus, and primrose

    Ginseng
    No ginseng found
    detected rice, dracaena, pine, wheat/grass and citrus

    Gingko Biloba:
    No gingko Biloba found
    Did detect allium (garlic), rice, spruce and asparagus

    St. John’s Wort
    No St. John’s Wort found
    detected allium (garlic), rice and dracaena (a tropical houseplant)

    Garlic
    Contained garlic
    Products By Target, Up & Up brand

    Echinacea
    Most, but not all tests detected Echinacea
    One test identified rice in the content

    Saw Palmetto
    Most tests detected saw palmetto
    Some tests found no plant DNA

    Valerian Root
    No valerian root found
    Detected asparagus, pea family, rice, wild carrot, allium, bean, and saw palmetto

    Gingko Biloba
    No gingko Biloba detected
    Found garlic, rice and mung/French bean

    St. John’s Wort
    No St. John’s Wort found
    Found garlic, rice and dracaena (houseplant)

    Garlic
    Contained garlic
    One test identified no DNA
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