Was pretty dissapointed. I had heard so much about this art, but the school I went to looked like an McKwoon. I got to see a very obese woman test. I had seen some Hsing-Yi forms, and her's looked awfull, very sloppy. She was testing for a brown sash, which is up there I guess, with their sash rankings. She got the belt,btw. For two hours, they did two man sets, using the same Chin Na lock for those two hours. It was nothing like what little I had seen, or what many have described on here. It wasn't at all agressive. And it seemed to fit the generalizations of "CHI HIPPIES". It was a bit pricey. I was dissapointed to say the least.