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    Olympic T'ai ji quan form.

    Hi.

    Just a quick question.

    Has anybody seen the new TJQ form that was created for the upcoming Olympics??

    One of my Teachers apparently saw it last weekend at a TJQ meeting and told us today about it.

    If you have seen it let me know what you think about it.

    Cheers.
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    Hmmm, nobody seen it yet??

    He mentioned that it was VERY new, so maybe it hs not made it yet to the west.

    He showed me how they modified some of our moves and I agree with his assesment about them.

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    New form? I thought they were just going to use the 42 form. So what differences are there?

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    It doesn't have those ugly @ss pro China compulsory moves does it? You know, the wierd balances and jumpkicks?

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    Haven't seen a new one ...yet...but the things they are doing in competition in China are strange. They ahve added things like a lower on one leg, tornado kicks, and so forth...moves that have never been seen in ANY Taijiquan style...and al in the name of raising the level of difficulty when you can watch the competitors and see...good physical ability...but poor Taijiquan internals.

    But then again, that would require the judges to actually embrace Taijiquan instead of being a Changquan judge serving as a Taijiquan judge.

    As for the Olympics, it is my understanding that Taijiquan will be only a women's event...which really sucks.

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    Here are 2 mods.

    1.) we got a jump where we kick with left/right leg and and up with the right leg back in a stance.
    In the new form they need to land on right leg ALONE, while the left leg is still in the air.
    Stops the breathing and Chi flow.

    2.) They seem to got a funny way of moving into a new stance by moving one leg behind and around the other one.
    Kinda like getting into "mandarin duck sitting on the ground" in reverse.

    Overall comment was along the lines:
    "Whoever created that has no idea of tjq nor MA applications.

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    Why are competitions in Forms so important?
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    Most of the serious TJQ guys I know don't give a **** about forms or Tui Shou competition.

    Problem I see is the following:

    What most people see of TJQ are the forms and push hands competitions and they will assume that this is what TJQ is.

    Most people today wouldn't last long under traditional training methods, thus we got a lot of watered down forms and teaching methods.

    You can get the traditional training with everything included, but it is far from being the norm.

    Example:
    I have shown multiple applications of the same "movement" and an external MA friend said that it looked like 3 different techs from his point of view.

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    new taiji 42 forms

    I have seen them and like to see the difficulty bar raised, but i know those moves arent in any traditional style like the jump kick to 180 degree rooster on one leg landing, also the squating low on one leg to step back ride tiger, and the leg behind squat "mandarin duck kick trick", and a 360 turn and fajing kick with heel.

    the taiji jian also has an outside jump kick to sworrd overhead in balance stance, and also a tornado kick to balance stance.



    its modern wushu taijiquan...something far from classical/traditional wushu taijiquan.
    http://www.polariswushu.net

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    Dr. Mark Cheng, Tai Chi instructor at Sochi Olympics

    Delaware grad and tai chi master training Olympic athletes in Pyeongchang
    Jessica Bies, The News Journal Published 9:46 a.m. ET Feb. 20, 2018 | Updated 10:16 a.m. ET Feb. 20, 2018


    South Korea and Norway fans wave flags during a venue victory ceremony for men's speedskating 500m during the Pyeongchang 2018 Olympic Winter Games at Gangneung Ice Arena in Pyeongchang, South Korea.
    (Photo: JEFFREY SWINGER, USA TODAY Sports)

    A St. Andrew's School graduate and tai chi instructor is in Pyeongchang, South Korea, this month working with the U.S. Olympic speedskating team.

    Tai chi is just one of several out-of-the-box training ideas U.S. Speedskating has embraced since a disastrous showing at the 2014 Olympics in Sochi, Russia, The New York Times reported. The team won one silver medal.

    Though athletes originally blamed their poor performance on speedskating suits made by Under Armour, experts have since determined the racers just weren't as good as they thought they were. They were underprepared and overhyped for the games.

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    St. Andrew’s goes to South Korea!
    We are so excited to follow the U.S. Olympic Speedskaters as Mark Cheng ’90 is an essential member of their training team. His successful work with the athletes as a tai chi instructor last spring at their annual strength and conditioning camp led him to continue on as “Mindfulness and Recovery Specialist” for the team.

    Here he is on Friday in a photo sent to Al Wood, our St. Andrew’s Director of Athletics. Cheng wrote, “Ready to jump into a long day of work here with US Speedskating on the Gangneung coast for the Pyeongchang Olympics. Repping SAS all the way!”

    Good luck, Team USA… The Saints are on your side!

    For more of his story, read this article in the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/…/speedskati...hang-games.ht…
    Since then, both U.S. Speedskating and Under Armour have been working together to turn things around. In addition to spending $240,000 a year in gear and cash, the clothing company has brought on an eclectic group of advisers, including a fitness guru, a Tour de France cycling veteran, a Navy Seal, a sleep expert and Delaware-native tai chi master, Mark Cheng.

    Cheng's successful work with the athletes as a tai chi instructor last spring at their annual strength and conditioning camp led him to continue on as “Mindfulness and Recovery Specialist” for the team. Tai chi helps reduce stress and relax athletes, as well as helping with breathing. Cheng has also been teaching the athletes to meditate.

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    drmarkchengMy iPhone X camera can’t even come close to capturing the speed that these dudes manifest on this ice. Watching them floor it when they train inspires me in ways you can’t even imagine! So honored to be part of the @usspeedskating staff here at the @pyeongchang2018 @olympics!
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    One speedskater, Aaron Tran, even gave Cheng a shoutout on Twitter this week. Tran did not make it past the qualifications of the 500 meters Tuesday and will leave South Korea without an individual medal.

    Cheng has been tweeting at him and other Olympic athletes and praising for them for their work ethic and resilience, even in the face of huge disappointment.

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    Thanks man! But you're the real man 😆 You have so much knowledge and understanding, and have a good way to apply those in an effective way. It's an honor to work with you! #TeamUSA

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    Tran told Cheng he's helped him develop that mindset.

    'You have so much knowledge and understanding and have a good way to apply those in an effective way," Tran told Cheng. "It's an honor to work with you! #TeamUSA"

    Cheng said he is representing St. Andrew's School in Middletown at the games in South Korea. He graduated from the Episcopal, co-educational boarding school in 1990.

    “Ready to jump into a long day of work here with U.S. Speedskating on the Gangneung coast for the Pyeongchang Olympics," he told the school's athletic director Al Wood in an email last week. "Repping SAS all the way!”

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    drmarkchengUp in the house with @celskeet & @thomasishong to cheer on @usspeedskating teammates @thejessicakooreman, @biney.biney, & @lagehring1 for the Ladies’ 1500m Short Tracks heats here in Gangneung for the Pyeongchang Winter Olympics!
    #winterolympics #speedskating #korea #squad #pyeongchang2018
    Cheng, who has a private practice in Santa Monica, California, and works with patients recovering from surgery or in rehabilitation, grew up and went to school in Delaware. His parents are immigrants who still live in Delaware, and his father, Cheng Yu-Nien, started teaching him Chinese martial arts when he was 4 years old.

    Find more pictures of Cheng at the Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang at https://www.instagram.com/DrMarkCheng/.

    Contact Jessica Bies at (302) 324-2881 or jbies@delawareonline.com. Follow her on Twitter @jessicajbies.

    I'm going to copy this Winter Olympics post to the Olympic T'ai ji quan form, which I'm hijacking for this particular topic (that decade & a half old thread is way off base anyway ).
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