Anyone training gun defenses?

[rogue]

How big a part is it of your training. Do you use simunition or blanks? Any particular method or techniques?

[Fred Sanford]

I have a friend load up some simunitions then I practice dodging bullets.

[Shaolin-Do]

Have a cap gun and rubber knife to practice disarms... Get shot and cut a lot still.

[Oso]

I've trained some.

the best I've trained came from a shorinji kempo group. they got inside the range of the weapon and broke the wielder's neck.

rogue, you are a trouble maker.

'gun' defense will be much the same as knife defense. 'damage mitigation'.

like any other weapon, you have to beat the person not what's in their hands.

[HuangKaiVun]

We've got a few registered and professional gun users training with us, so we train against people who KNOW how to use guns and have the certification to prove it.

Most truly skilled gun users face people using a reverse stance. So if they're right handed, they'll put their left foot forward and stabilize the weapon with the left hand.

In our drills, we use water pistols to shoot each other during practice. Of course, we make sure that the water gun is roughly the same size as a Glock pistol.

Because of the way modern trained gun users hold the gun, the key is to stay to the outside of the weapon. So if the gun is held in the right hand, stay to your LEFT of the weapon and apply techniques from there. You must escape the shooter's zone to even remotely have a chance of surviving.

If you do that wrong and stay inside the shooter's zone, the skilled gun user will flex his wrist and shoot you anyway.

[Shaolin-Do]

"Because of the way modern trained gun users hold the gun,"

Majority of assailants are non trained illigitemate gun owners
Which most likely make up a good majority of gun owners period... Not sure tho.

[MasterKiller]

Unless you drill to defeat someone holding the gun lifted eye-level and sideways in the gangsta stance, you are wasting your time. 9.9 times out of 10, that's how the punk will be holding it when he hits you up for your wallet.

[HuangKaiVun]

If you can defend against the skilled gun user, defending against the less trained gun opponent is much easier.

Unless you have practiced this repeatedly, you couldn't know this.

[truewrestler]

the best I've trained came from a shorinji kempo group. they got inside the range of the weapon and broke the wielder's neck.

Good lord... if only this could be done against a non-gun weilding opponent

[norther practitioner]

I stay out of bad neighborhoods.... does that count?

[Shaolin-Do]

I go for jogs in the ghetto wearing a suit made entirely out of 100 dollar bills taped together.
(of course I sport my Ice gille as well...)

[HuangKaiVun]

Is staying out of bad neighborhoods enough to avoid having to defend against guns?

NO.

People get attacked by guns in good neighborhoods too whether they ask for it or not.

[norther practitioner]

I guess I didn't lay on the sarcasm thick enough... I don't train gun defenses..... I think that they could definitely produce false confidance in a situation where you should be mostly submisive.

[HuangKaiVun]

Nor did I lay on the reality thick enough either, it seems.

Here in Phoenix, people get shot all the time.

I also come from Schenectady NY, where every potential person that walks by you very well could shoot you dead for virtually no reason.

"Mostly submissive" often result in "all dead", particularly for women who are attacked on the street.

[norther practitioner]

, where every potential person that walks by you very well could shoot you dead for virtually no reason.

Thats pretty much the truth anywhere...

"Mostly submissive" often result in "all dead"

no, fighting someone with a gun will often result in dead.....
Granted there are time, where it is all or nothing that I would go toe up, however, someone wanting my wallet, will prob. get a lot of reciepts and a few credit cards, thats it.