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Thread: Which of the big 3 teaches you to fight sooner?

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    Which of the big 3 teaches you to fight sooner?

    Taiji (any style), Bagua, or Xingyi. Which one would produce a competent fighter the quickest, and why?

    Just curious.

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    ...the one with the better instructor?

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    Good answer.

    But not quite the answer Iron's looking for I reckon

    I don't have any experience of bagua or xingyi but I have a hunch that a lot of people would say xingyi, because its a more 'direct' method of fighting.

    How flawed that argument is or isn't I don't know.

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    The one that trains obvious energy first, wich everyone would agree in it being the easiest type of force to apply. That would be Xing yi.
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    Let me guess Joseph... you study Xing yi?

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    Did some hard work guessing right at it huh.

    And yes, the instructor matters bigtime.
    Last edited by Joseph_alb; 08-29-2003 at 03:47 AM.
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    Yeah, instructor matter big time, and how much time you have. The more free time you have to train, the quicker you'll progress, obviously. As for the instructor thing, some schools will take about 6 months, others won't let you even think about sparring for 3 years, lol. Others still will never let you spar

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    Off these 3?

    Hsing-I gives you something you an work with right away.

    Don't forget though, fighting is more than hitting.

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    Unless something unforseen comes up, I'll be there Not sure what all I'll compete in though :P

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    I'd say Xingyi (and I do Bagua, FYI )
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    Xing yi fo sho.

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    Unless something unforseen comes up, I'll be there Not sure what all I'll compete in though :P
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    Having trained in all three, i would say Tai Chi Chuan. They should start you out early with push hands and blend into sparring. Hsing-i was a lot of form practice (12 animals, Linking form, weapon forms), drilling the postures, standing meditation in postures for long periods. It was so short and explosive that any sparring would only last seconds. PaKuaChang also did not start sparring for a long time, it was forms and many different circle walking exercises, some interactive but not like fighting, and chin-na taught from static position. So I would go with TaiChi but watch out for weak teachers who should have instead been selling Amway products to gay clergymen that like to carry that kind of thing around in their backpacks while sleep walking.
    Last edited by greendragon; 08-30-2003 at 10:52 AM.

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    hsing-i.
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    I've been studying all 3 concurrently for the past year. We do mostly non-contact sparring and I must say that all 3 arts have their particular strengths. Hsingi-i can be very quick and devastating but is probably the hardest to learn. Pa Qua is very strategic and excellent for multiple oponents. I love all the sweeps involved. Tai Chi Chuan (Original Yang) is good when you have a lot of space to work with. It's momentum redirection strategies are useful against bigger opponents.

    At least that's how I see it from my experience but I have a long, long way to go.

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