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    KC has dosed the correct with psychedelic toad juice and abandoned it in an impenetrable jungle to find it's "Spirit Guide."

    Carlos Castaneda is a drugged out hippie liar burnout, and if you believe in "majjykal powers," you may as well quit working hard and just lick Paul Mooney between his toes in the hopes of absorbing his mastery of Kong Jing.
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    when it comes to the subject of magik or mystical powers , spiritual stregnths in conjunction with martial arts, i take this attitude,
    There are greater things and greater masters than you or I so it may very well exist, but like the tao te ching says
    those who know do not speak and those who speak do not know.

    If one proclaims that he has great power and skill dont believe it, true masters allow their actions to speak for them.
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    By his fourth book (I'm a slow learner) I was sure Carlos made a big mistake trying the jimsom weed. It's very poisonous. I think his original personality went bye bye.

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    Originally posted by Chang Style Novice
    KC has dosed the correct with psychedelic toad juice and abandoned it in an impenetrable jungle to find it's "Spirit Guide."
    I regret licking the pschedellic toad. For the rest of my life, I will wonder if I was hallucinating or if the toad was really saying "a little higher, baby."

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    $1 > KC Elbows
    All my fight strategy is based on deliberately injuring my opponents. -
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    "It is the same in all wars; the soldiers do the fighting, the journalists do the shouting, and no true patriot ever get near a front-line trench, except on the briefest of propoganda visits...Perhaps when the next great war comes we may see that sight unprecendented in all history, a jingo with a bullet-hole in him."

    First you get good, then you get fast, then you get good and fast.

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    Talking

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    Count, back in this thread aways you told of the guys hitting their shins with baseball bats. That would not impress me, only assure me they were idiots with a short martial future. Otherwise you have many good posts.
    Raatra, I think most traditional martial arts carry over ritual if not mystery from their culture. A lot of it is shed in the westernization process. If this interests you, look into the Taoist arts. But word, the realm of magic has little to do with martial arts and is generally clung to by psychotics, energy vampires and jealous masters.
    Training should be fun, like "guided by the beauty of our weapons" kinda thing.

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    greendragon...

    My definition of "westernization": The process by which a lazy mind strips away the ideas, methods and practices that do not result in the immediate satisfaction of its erratic whims.

    Much of the "magic" that people talk of in martial arts is simply the end result of diligent practice of exercises that do no have immediate forseeable results, yet in time produce a significant change in a persons being, both physically and mentally. Such practices create people that can perform feats that seem unrealistic or fantastical to someone who hasnt followed the rigorous and well defined path towards such abilities and therefore, such people are unable to see how such things are possible.
    Let your heart wear the crown, not your head.

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    Not speaking

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    i know im a bit late but i like the empty hand transition to knife video lol
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    My definition of "westernization": The process by which a lazy mind strips away the ideas, methods and practices that do not result in the immediate satisfaction of its erratic whims.
    lol, I would define that more as impetuosity no matter where it's from, but that's pretty funny.

    Much of the "magic" that people talk of in martial arts is simply the end result of diligent practice of exercises that do no have immediate forseeable results, yet in time produce a significant change in a persons being, both physically and mentally. Such practices create people that can perform feats that seem unrealistic or fantastical to someone who hasnt followed the rigorous and well defined path towards such abilities and therefore, such people are unable to see how such things are possible.
    Agree to an extent. Arthur C Clarke once said that any sufficiently advanced technology that is beyond the comprehension of the observer can quickly be delegated to the realm of magic. In the sense that you are using the idea, I would agree that the technology is a 'change method' that effects a person.

    But as someone here said, anyone who purports mastery instead of "showing" mastery, isn't what they think they are.

    Having said all that, Silat is a pretty cool fighting art, but it is also a holistic art much like kungfu or capoiera or many of the other martial arts that have adopted an entire 'way of life' attitude about what is practiced.

    The whole 'way of life' thing is ever changing (because people are always changing) and people don't see clear to the old ways so much anymore because societally and intellectually man has grown by leaps and bounds in the last century or so and the majority are into different kinds of snake oils now, and philosophies on life.

    BJ- your remarks about britney and a fat lady clapping along put a very bad image in my head and I am ashamed that I laughed when I read it.

    TWS- take it in stride man.

    Count - Pa Kua is a cool art, spinning Pa Kuas are cool too.

    cheers

    oh yes! One more thing, I've read prety much everything that Carlos ever wrote and I enjoy his story telling. But that's all they are is stories. None of it can nor ever has been verified independently of Castenedas' own claims. Hmmmm, that sounds familiar.
    Last edited by Kung Lek; 09-06-2003 at 09:56 PM.
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    What if "mastery" cant be demonstrated though, only known. And im not talking mastery of "magic" where you shoot lightning from your a$$ and fire from your eyes, but the mastery of the self and the myriad forces within.

    Oh and just to reiterate, i dont endorse anything on the site links i posted. I just thought it was interesting and would be interesting to hear peoples ideas about similar ideas.
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    What if "mastery" cant be demonstrated though, only known. And im not talking mastery of "magic" where you shoot lightning from your a$$ and fire from your eyes, but the mastery of the self and the myriad forces within.
    That's fine. But that would inevitably lead back to the "he who knows does not spek and he who speaks does not know idea"

    Which is not about professional, technical or vocational things, it is specific to the Tao and frankly I think it gets overused a lot by someone who picks up a copy of a taoist leaflet or loose interpretive writing.

    IE: Because someone speaks about a topic that they are expert in does not in any way mean that they don' know what they are talking about or intimately the subject.

    But, when one states"I am a master over you" specifically, they are master of nothing, because who the heck would stick around for that kind of abuse? lol

    However, if one offers what they know freely and without pretense, that is a differnet story, and again, a persons overinflated ego doesn't mean they have 0 skill either. It just means they have an overinflated ego which is or isn't appealing to those who have to deal with that person.

    Having said all that. the journey is your own and you cannot pass mastery to another, you can only manifest it in yourself and truthfully, no one is master of anyone else except perhaps in a short term scenario, because we all get ours in the end :-)
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    How about Herman Suwanda's students, would they be legit as well?

    Why does the web address for the old Ratu Adil website send you to a website that has nothing to do with Rudy Ter Linden or silat?
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    Why does the link on "knifedirectory.com" for Gayong silat send me to a list of websites on h0mosexual porn?
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