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    dont trust any chinese woman that have any weird ass name like anastasia

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    So true. Can not be trusted. Especially a cult cutie with that name. She could be a spy for Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmStriker View Post
    So true. Can not be trusted. Especially a cult cutie with that name. She could be a spy for Canada.
    We're checking up on maple syrup stocks and how much people know about poutine recipes.
    The only way to get away with it is to front a Chinese Canadian Beauty queen as a member of a woo woo cult to get to the bottom of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    Greetings,

    I have seen some Falun gong practitioners here in NYC. I have observed some doing their chi practices. There was absolutely nothing going on inside. They were just holding a pose. In that regard I am very concerned with the younger generation of practitioners who, once realizing that they are practicing quackery, will turn their backs to the traditional disciplines, finally achieving what Mao envisioned decades ago. the aforementioned sentence is the real danger of Falun Gong.

    mickey
    I do not believe this though the same can be said of any discipline where individuals go through the outward/external rituals but there is no coherence of body, mind or 'spirit'.
    I see no danger in Falun Gong practice but their loud demands of social equity is too much for Beijing and as a result their targeting by the Public Security Bureau has made them enemies of the Nation. It does not help that Falun Gong personnel arrested are often tortured and killed but they are often ignored except per the targeted agent provocatuers?? often seen to be disruting the legal assembly in the marketplace!

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    A petition via the Epoch Times

    Petition Asks Chinese Leader to Intervene for Anastasia Lin, Miss World Canada
    By Cindy Drukier, Epoch Times | November 21, 2015 Last Updated: November 22, 2015 9:54 am


    Miss World Canada Anastasia Lin, in New York City on June 13, 2015. (Benjamin Chasteen/Epoch Times)

    Anastasia Lin, Miss World Canada, should be in China right now, competing for the Miss World Title. But she isn’t. She never received her invitation letter from China—the one issued to every other contestant—so she couldn’t apply for a visa.

    Her supporters have started a petition on change.org aimed at Chinese leader Xi Jinping asking him to intervene to let Lin into the country.

    Lin needed the invitation letter by Friday, Nov. 20, to make it to Hainan Island, the site of the competition, in time or she’d be disqualified. Of course, in extenuating circumstances exceptions can be made, but time is running out, which is the reason for the 11th-hour signature campaign.


    Change.org petition: Let Anastasia Lin Into China to Represent Canada at Miss World 2015, taken 9:40 a.m. (ET), Nov. 22, 2015. (Screenshot/change.org)

    The petition letter asserts that Lin has been excluded because she’s been a vocal critic of human rights abuses in China.

    The Chinese-born actress was crowned Miss World Canada in May on the promise to “be a voice for the voiceless.” And it’s a promise she has kept.

    “Ms. Lin is being discriminated against because she has spoken out about human rights abuses in China, including the persecution of Falun Gong, a meditation practice that has been persecuted in China since 1999,” reads the letter.

    The letter mentions how her father in Changsha, China, was visited by state security personnel shortly after she won the beauty pageant in Canada. Before the visit, he had told his daughter how proud he was of her accomplishments. After the visit, he told her to stop speaking about human rights.

    “My dad was really scared. He said, ‘You must stop what you are doing now, otherwise we will just go our separate ways.'” Lin told Epoch Times at the time. Lin and her father haven’t been able to speak openly since.

    We ask you allow Ms. Lin to travel to China immediately and participate in the Miss World final
    — Change.org petition to Chinese leader Xi Jinping

    Yet Lin refuses to be intimidated. She publicly exposed the pressure her father received and in July, she even testified before the U.S. Congressional Executive Commission on China at a hearing on human rights abuses in that country.

    Her view is that to give into the Chinese regime’s pressure is precisely what perpetuates that behavior.

    “If it works on me, it will work on other people,” she previously told Epoch Times. “The more time that this kind of tactic works on people, the more they will apply it.”

    The petition urges Xi Jinping to do the right thing if China wants to be respected internationally.

    “If China aspires to be a responsible member of the international community it should behave according to the standard of that community, including respecting basic freedoms and different viewpoints.”

    The letter concludes with a direct appeal to Xi to intervene on Lin’s behalf:

    “We ask you allow Ms. Lin to travel to China immediately and participate in the Miss World final on December 19, 2015. We also demand you abandon any attempts to intimidate her family members.”
    There's more good pageant politics on our Beauty-Pageants thread.
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    The sound of the other shoe dropping...

    ...I was waiting for just this sort of rebuttal. It's not the issue per se (nor any accused nose-jobs, ). It's the general non-political stance of any 'world' contest to avoid controversy.

    Miss World Canada Attacked by State-Linked Chinese Paper
    Mark Rivett-Carnac @mrivettcarnac 3:00 AM ET


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    Portrait photo of Anastasia Lin, Miss World Canada, 2015
    “She may not know that all performers should avoid being involved in radical political issues,” the paper said

    A Chinese newspaper attacked Miss World Canada in an editorial Sunday, after the China-born contestant said she was barred for political reasons from entering the country to attend the upcoming international beauty pageant.

    The article, in the state-linked English language newspaper Global Times, accused Anastasia Lin of criticizing the Chinese government to “gain sympathy from the Western public that already holds prejudices against China.”

    The 25-year-old beauty queen testified in July at a U.S. congressional hearing on religious persecution in China and is a vocal critic of Beijing’s human-rights abuses. She is reportedly a practitioner of Falun Gong, a Buddhist- and Taoist-inspired Chinese spiritual discipline detested by the communist authorities.

    “Lin has to pay a cost for being tangled with hostile forces,” the article said. “She may not know that all performers should avoid being involved in radical political issues.”

    It added: “Lin needs to learn to be responsible for her words and deeds.”

    Speaking last week at a news conference at Hong Kong Airport after learning that she was barred from entering China, Lin said, according to CNN: “Ask the Chinese government why is it afraid to let in a beauty queen? Ask them why, what kind of precedent this would set for future international events that it wants to host. Ask them whether they would also bar Olympic athletes from participating in the Winter Olympic Games just because they have different views that the Communist Party don’t agree with?”

    People reported that Chinese officials were harassing Lin’s father, who lives in China, and that he had threatened to cut ties with her if she did not stop criticizing the communist regime.
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    Shen Yun

    Shen Yun's advertising budget must be tremendous. I see their ads everywhere.

    Falun Gong, banned in China, finds a loud protest voice in the U.S. through Shen Yun dance troupe


    Shen Yun, founded by practitioners of Falun Gong, performs in more than 100 cities worldwide, including Claremont this weekend. (Rick Loomis / Los Angeles Times)
    Jessica Gelt

    The cavernous Long Beach Terrace Theater echoes with classical Chinese music as more than a dozen dancers expertly manipulate colorful fans that sweep like wind and snap like fire. In precise formation they coalesce into a river of dance inspired by Chinese history, legend, myth and literature.

    The performers are serious and determined. The only direction they receive comes from a calm woman dressed in black, standing near the theater's center. She speaks in Mandarin — her words few, her manner direct.

    It's rehearsal time for Shen Yun Performing Arts, a touring dance troupe founded in New York by practitioners of Falun Gong, the spiritual practice banned by the Chinese Communist Party in 1999.

    The party calls it a cult; Falun Gong says the Chinese government is trying to eradicate thousands of years of culture and tradition and that its repression of Shen Yun shows an intolerance of freedom of expression and religion. Indisputably, the dance company — marking its 10th anniversary — has become a cultural phenomenon.

    A single company has grown to four troupes that perform each year in more than 100 cities in 30-plus countries. In Southern California, Shen Yun stages more than 30 shows a year. The group will perform in Claremont on Saturday and Sunday, followed by stops in Costa Mesa, Northridge, Bakersfield and the Microsoft Theater in downtown L.A., ending April 29-30 in Santa Barbara.

    "The show is 5,000 years of culture in one night," said Felipe Sena, a creative director for a fragrance company who caught a performance at Lincoln Center in New York in March. "The colors are amazing, the message is very lyrical and clear."

    Many go to the performances unaware of the political undertones to the shows, even though one or two dances deal directly with Falun Gong's clash with the Chinese Communist Party.

    Nonetheless, it's safe to say that the bright costumes and spinning dancers are meant to convey a message. "The Falun Gong has a very well organized, managed and elaborate program of public relations, and Shen Yun is part of that," said James Tong, a UCLA professor, expert in Chinese politics and author of a book about the Communist Party and Falun Gong. When audiences see Shen Yun, "people want to know more about the Falun Gong."

    Falun Gong was founded by spiritual leader Li Hongzhi in 1992. By the late 1990s, it claimed an estimated 70 million followers inside China. It emphasizes the traditions of Buddhism, meditation and tai chi, and at its inception it enjoyed a close relationship with the Chinese Communist Party.

    But when the government began to crack down on groups promoting qigong, an ancient Chinese practice of holistic medicine that espouses breathing techniques to promote good health, the Falun Gong was among those targeted.

    The Falun Gong has a very well organized, managed and elaborate program of public relations, and Shen Yun is part of that.
    — James Tong, UCLA professor
    The group responded by staging brazen protests. At one point 20,000 followers surrounded party headquarters in Beijing. After that, the government deemed the practice of Falun Gong illegal. Practitioners have accused the government of persecution, repression and brutalization. Shen Yun represents an artistic response in this struggle.

    The dance troupe is just one part of a cultural program promoted by Falun Gong that includes international music, martial arts, Chinese cooking and Chinese fashion competitions as well as special summer and winter camps for children, Tong said. He's uncertain if these programs are meant to be political tools, but he believes they have that effect because they cultivate positive relationships with local communities and governments.

    The Falun Gong organization is notoriously reclusive and declined a request for an interview, but the group's mission is stated on the Shen Yun website: "For 5,000 years divine culture flourished in the land of China. Humanity's treasure was nearly lost, but through breathtaking music and dance, Shen Yun is bringing back this glorious culture."

    Inside China, "traditional Chinese spiritual practice has been very demonized," said local Shen Yun promoter Wen Chen, who left China after college. "We were taught that Buddhism was stupid, so a lot of Chinese students came to the U.S. and realized they were brainwashed. In the United States they saw something authentic. They were able to read freely and speak freely and they started to appreciate traditional Chinese practices and spiritual guidance."

    Chen acknowledged, however, that most of Shen Yun's audience members aren't arriving for spiritual guidance. They simply delight in the dancers, singers and musicians as well as the myths and legends that are told through vigorously acrobatic dance routines. The elaborate costumes and props don't hurt either, nor do the digital effects projected on a wall behind the stage.

    That, however, doesn't prevent the core message of "truthfulness, compassion and tolerance" from infecting the audience, Chen said.


    Shen Yun emcee Jared Madsen (Rick Loomis / Los Angeles Times)

    The website for the Chinese Embassy in the United States has a different point of view: "'Shen Yun' is not a cultural performance at all but a political tool of 'Falun Gong' to preach cult messages, spread anti-China propaganda, increase its own influence and raise fund. It blasphemizes and distorts the Chinese culture, and deceives, fools and poisons the audience."

    Falun Gong has been regarded by some as more personality cult than religion because Li is known as "Master Li," and his instructions and sayings are recorded as sacred scripture. Although it has no management body, Falun Gong has an estimated 80 million to 100 million followers worldwide.

    Shen Yun emcee Jared Madsen discovered Falun Gong while attending high school and college in China in the 1990s, before it was banned. When he heard about Shen Yun in 2006, he immediately applied and has been touring with the show ever since. His role is to come onstage between dances with a fellow emcee and tell the story or legend about to be danced. Madsen speaks in English, while his counterpart speaks in Mandarin.

    In Madsen's opinion, Shen Yun has not suffered from its association with Falun Gong, and he doesn't think audience members walk away feeling the show was about politics. "The only resistance we've seen has been from the Chinese Communist Party Consulate," he said. "In the beginning they would call the theaters and tell them not to let Shen Yun perform."

    That tactic was never effective in America, Madsen said.

    Today the dance troupe can barely book enough shows to satisfy public demand in some locations. One year, Chen said, the Southern California wait list for tickets was hundreds of people long. That year Chen sacrificed her personal tickets for the cause.


    Shen Yun principal dancer Angelia Wang. (Rick Loomis / Los Angeles Times)

    Such devotion is not rare among those who work with Shen Yun, whose financial success is partly because of volunteers. Chen, for example, works as a biologist for Caltech but dedicates her nights and weekends for six months out of the year to book Shen Yun shows throughout Southern California. When she started nearly 10 years ago, the volunteer base was nearly 100 strong, though she said those ranks have dwindled significantly now that Shen Yun can sustain itself largely on word of mouth.

    Dancers, singers and musicians do get paid; according to the nonprofit organization's most recent federal filing, about $4.5 million of its $7.1 million in expenses for 2014 went toward wages. (Compensation to all officers and board members added up to less than $100,000.) The group reported revenue of $18.1 million in 2014, and net assets totaled more than $38 million.

    The group said all proceeds from the performance go back to Shen Yun to pay the show's artists and to support the operation of Fei Tian Academy of the Arts in New York, which acts as a feeder school to Shen Yun. Falun Gong does not receive income from the shows, a Shen Yun representative said.

    For some of the performers, Shen Yun is more than a job. It's a new way of life.

    "I left home when I was 13," said Shen Yun principal dancer Angelia Wang, who is 22 and has been with the company since 2007, when she enrolled in Fei Tian Academy. "I didn't see my parents for seven years. I would get persecuted if I came back. I had no idea when I left, I was really clueless."

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    Shen Yun

    Shen Yun's advertising budget must be tremendous. I see their ads everywhere.

    Falun Gong, banned in China, finds a loud protest voice in the U.S. through Shen Yun dance troupe


    Shen Yun, founded by practitioners of Falun Gong, performs in more than 100 cities worldwide, including Claremont this weekend. (Rick Loomis / Los Angeles Times)
    Jessica Gelt

    The cavernous Long Beach Terrace Theater echoes with classical Chinese music as more than a dozen dancers expertly manipulate colorful fans that sweep like wind and snap like fire. In precise formation they coalesce into a river of dance inspired by Chinese history, legend, myth and literature.

    The performers are serious and determined. The only direction they receive comes from a calm woman dressed in black, standing near the theater's center. She speaks in Mandarin — her words few, her manner direct.

    It's rehearsal time for Shen Yun Performing Arts, a touring dance troupe founded in New York by practitioners of Falun Gong, the spiritual practice banned by the Chinese Communist Party in 1999.

    The party calls it a cult; Falun Gong says the Chinese government is trying to eradicate thousands of years of culture and tradition and that its repression of Shen Yun shows an intolerance of freedom of expression and religion. Indisputably, the dance company — marking its 10th anniversary — has become a cultural phenomenon.

    A single company has grown to four troupes that perform each year in more than 100 cities in 30-plus countries. In Southern California, Shen Yun stages more than 30 shows a year. The group will perform in Claremont on Saturday and Sunday, followed by stops in Costa Mesa, Northridge, Bakersfield and the Microsoft Theater in downtown L.A., ending April 29-30 in Santa Barbara.

    "The show is 5,000 years of culture in one night," said Felipe Sena, a creative director for a fragrance company who caught a performance at Lincoln Center in New York in March. "The colors are amazing, the message is very lyrical and clear."

    Many go to the performances unaware of the political undertones to the shows, even though one or two dances deal directly with Falun Gong's clash with the Chinese Communist Party.

    Nonetheless, it's safe to say that the bright costumes and spinning dancers are meant to convey a message. "The Falun Gong has a very well organized, managed and elaborate program of public relations, and Shen Yun is part of that," said James Tong, a UCLA professor, expert in Chinese politics and author of a book about the Communist Party and Falun Gong. When audiences see Shen Yun, "people want to know more about the Falun Gong."

    Falun Gong was founded by spiritual leader Li Hongzhi in 1992. By the late 1990s, it claimed an estimated 70 million followers inside China. It emphasizes the traditions of Buddhism, meditation and tai chi, and at its inception it enjoyed a close relationship with the Chinese Communist Party.

    But when the government began to crack down on groups promoting qigong, an ancient Chinese practice of holistic medicine that espouses breathing techniques to promote good health, the Falun Gong was among those targeted.

    The Falun Gong has a very well organized, managed and elaborate program of public relations, and Shen Yun is part of that.
    — James Tong, UCLA professor
    The group responded by staging brazen protests. At one point 20,000 followers surrounded party headquarters in Beijing. After that, the government deemed the practice of Falun Gong illegal. Practitioners have accused the government of persecution, repression and brutalization. Shen Yun represents an artistic response in this struggle.

    The dance troupe is just one part of a cultural program promoted by Falun Gong that includes international music, martial arts, Chinese cooking and Chinese fashion competitions as well as special summer and winter camps for children, Tong said. He's uncertain if these programs are meant to be political tools, but he believes they have that effect because they cultivate positive relationships with local communities and governments.

    The Falun Gong organization is notoriously reclusive and declined a request for an interview, but the group's mission is stated on the Shen Yun website: "For 5,000 years divine culture flourished in the land of China. Humanity's treasure was nearly lost, but through breathtaking music and dance, Shen Yun is bringing back this glorious culture."

    Inside China, "traditional Chinese spiritual practice has been very demonized," said local Shen Yun promoter Wen Chen, who left China after college. "We were taught that Buddhism was stupid, so a lot of Chinese students came to the U.S. and realized they were brainwashed. In the United States they saw something authentic. They were able to read freely and speak freely and they started to appreciate traditional Chinese practices and spiritual guidance."

    Chen acknowledged, however, that most of Shen Yun's audience members aren't arriving for spiritual guidance. They simply delight in the dancers, singers and musicians as well as the myths and legends that are told through vigorously acrobatic dance routines. The elaborate costumes and props don't hurt either, nor do the digital effects projected on a wall behind the stage.

    That, however, doesn't prevent the core message of "truthfulness, compassion and tolerance" from infecting the audience, Chen said.


    Shen Yun emcee Jared Madsen (Rick Loomis / Los Angeles Times)

    The website for the Chinese Embassy in the United States has a different point of view: "'Shen Yun' is not a cultural performance at all but a political tool of 'Falun Gong' to preach cult messages, spread anti-China propaganda, increase its own influence and raise fund. It blasphemizes and distorts the Chinese culture, and deceives, fools and poisons the audience."

    Falun Gong has been regarded by some as more personality cult than religion because Li is known as "Master Li," and his instructions and sayings are recorded as sacred scripture. Although it has no management body, Falun Gong has an estimated 80 million to 100 million followers worldwide.

    Shen Yun emcee Jared Madsen discovered Falun Gong while attending high school and college in China in the 1990s, before it was banned. When he heard about Shen Yun in 2006, he immediately applied and has been touring with the show ever since. His role is to come onstage between dances with a fellow emcee and tell the story or legend about to be danced. Madsen speaks in English, while his counterpart speaks in Mandarin.

    In Madsen's opinion, Shen Yun has not suffered from its association with Falun Gong, and he doesn't think audience members walk away feeling the show was about politics. "The only resistance we've seen has been from the Chinese Communist Party Consulate," he said. "In the beginning they would call the theaters and tell them not to let Shen Yun perform."

    That tactic was never effective in America, Madsen said.

    Today the dance troupe can barely book enough shows to satisfy public demand in some locations. One year, Chen said, the Southern California wait list for tickets was hundreds of people long. That year Chen sacrificed her personal tickets for the cause.


    Shen Yun principal dancer Angelia Wang. (Rick Loomis / Los Angeles Times)

    Such devotion is not rare among those who work with Shen Yun, whose financial success is partly because of volunteers. Chen, for example, works as a biologist for Caltech but dedicates her nights and weekends for six months out of the year to book Shen Yun shows throughout Southern California. When she started nearly 10 years ago, the volunteer base was nearly 100 strong, though she said those ranks have dwindled significantly now that Shen Yun can sustain itself largely on word of mouth.

    Dancers, singers and musicians do get paid; according to the nonprofit organization's most recent federal filing, about $4.5 million of its $7.1 million in expenses for 2014 went toward wages. (Compensation to all officers and board members added up to less than $100,000.) The group reported revenue of $18.1 million in 2014, and net assets totaled more than $38 million.

    The group said all proceeds from the performance go back to Shen Yun to pay the show's artists and to support the operation of Fei Tian Academy of the Arts in New York, which acts as a feeder school to Shen Yun. Falun Gong does not receive income from the shows, a Shen Yun representative said.

    For some of the performers, Shen Yun is more than a job. It's a new way of life.

    "I left home when I was 13," said Shen Yun principal dancer Angelia Wang, who is 22 and has been with the company since 2007, when she enrolled in Fei Tian Academy. "I didn't see my parents for seven years. I would get persecuted if I came back. I had no idea when I left, I was really clueless."

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    Yep. they are currently advertising upcoming shows where I live.
    Many people, including myself until recently were / are oblivious to the Falun Dafa association with it.
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    funky magic wheel cult is really a shame on all sides.

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    The connection of Shen Yun to Falun Gong - the first time the show made its national tour a few years ago, if you were to look at the posters and ads they did, you could see the Falun Dafa connection.

    The next time or two they came around, that connection was removed. You have to wonder WHY. If Falun Gong is NOT a cultish thing, why would they need to remove the connection from their ads? They can indeed do a lot of expensive advertising. But, if you look at their ticket prices, if they were to have a large turn out, they could more than afford it.

    Now, how much money do they actually pay their performers? I would wager that THOSE numbers are more difficult to find than Bigfoot, the Snowman, and Nessie combined.

    And all you have to do to get the number on Falun Dafa is read their book.... I made it through 50 pages before my BS detector wouldn't allow me to go any further. If you have NOT read Li's book and practice his stuff and then defend them, you really should open your mind and read his writings. It is a load of Batsh$$ crazy.

    Personally, I would not even attend a Shen Yun performance with a free ticket. I refuse to support crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLW View Post
    The connection of Shen Yun to Falun Gong - the first time the show made its national tour a few years ago, if you were to look at the posters and ads they did, you could see the Falun Dafa connection.

    The next time or two they came around, that connection was removed. You have to wonder WHY. If Falun Gong is NOT a cultish thing, why would they need to remove the connection from their ads? They can indeed do a lot of expensive advertising. But, if you look at their ticket prices, if they were to have a large turn out, they could more than afford it.

    Now, how much money do they actually pay their performers? I would wager that THOSE numbers are more difficult to find than Bigfoot, the Snowman, and Nessie combined.

    And all you have to do to get the number on Falun Dafa is read their book.... I made it through 50 pages before my BS detector wouldn't allow me to go any further. If you have NOT read Li's book and practice his stuff and then defend them, you really should open your mind and read his writings. It is a load of Batsh$$ crazy.

    Personally, I would not even attend a Shen Yun performance with a free ticket. I refuse to support crazy.
    They do go on about how "divine culture" is the thing with Shen Yun. I wonder if they recruit at the show in a subtle or outright manner. I guess I'll never know, because like you, I'll never go. the odd thing to me is how much the cult has grown in the Toronto area. They have large amounts of people who join in parades at various occasions and though they are falun dafa groups, they are more low key about that and give themselves names like drumming group or some such other dance group etc.

    Ultimately, I don't "feel them" when it comes to philosophy or so called spiritual methodologies.
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    magic wheel is a disgrace since li hongzhi went asylum and get us funding. white lotus hate gwai los even more than prc. they literally believe white people come from a portal from hell in the pacific ocean
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    they literally believe white people come from a portal from hell in the pacific ocean
    We totally did. We even made a movie about it called Pacific Rim.

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