FALUN GONG/Falun Dafa

[Juna]

After reading the independent investigative report by former Canadian MP Mr David Kilgour and renowned international human rights lawyer Mr. David Matas, Father Feng Chi-wood - former Member of Hong Kong's Legislative council said that he is confident of the credibility of this report. He said: "These two men come from a professional background and I agree with their analysis."

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-7-13/43877.html

Really a shame.

[scholar]

Wow, doing Falungong must be really bad luck! Those poor people. Too bad Li Hongzhi has ruined their lives like that...

[KC Elbows]

So, first, these people got ripped off with the belief that only one person could give them health and happiness, all they had to do was risk their lives to follow him, then they lost their health doing exactly what he said?

Why didn't he see that coming to them, and instead say "Only if you follow me, you can have happiness and health, except you, who will lose your spleen in prison"?

It just seems fairly obvious that that would happen, and I am not even a savior.

It's one thing to die for freedom, but to die for health? Kind of a stupid dogma.

[Juna]

Wow, doing Falungong must be really bad luck! ...

They were very heathy and happy because of practicing Falun Gong, but evil ccp murdered them.

[Juna]

So, first, these people got ripped off with the belief that only one person could give them health and happiness, all they had to do was risk their lives to follow him, then they lost their health doing exactly what he said?

Not exactly, Falun Gong practitioners believe in Truthfulness, benevolence and Forbearance.

[Juna]

It's one thing to die for freedom, but to die for health? Kind of a stupid dogma.

Falun Gong practitioners believe in Truthfulness, benevolence and Forbearance, not only for health

[GLW]

Endure - huh?

Well then why are you not ENDURING your supposed persecution - preferably in SILENCE

[Juna]

Endure - huh?

Well then why are you not ENDURING your supposed persecution - preferably in SILENCE

Endure:
Have you heard a single violence from a Falun gong practitioner during the 7 years' evil persecutin?

Silence, facing the evil, keeping silence is the connivance to evil, right? That is against the nature of Truthfulness and Compassion.

[GLW]

Actually...silence when no one is listening is natural...you are unnatural

Actually going to WHERE the alleged atrrocities are being done and laying something on the line to fight it would be brave and truthful with yourself...

But you like to preach but do nothing.

Compassion...when did you actually help anyone that had NOTHING to do with trying to convert them to your cult? To do a kindness and move on would be compassion. You always have an ulterior motive - FG good.... in mind for everything you do.

Hypocritical it would seem.

And cowardly. Now, the guy who stood in front of the tank in Tiananmen Square...he had guts. you...

[David Jamieson]

we'll see what comes of the alegations I suppose.

My bet is on "zero".

Trying to move CHina on matters of internal policy is akin to pulling teeth from a crocodile with only tweezers and no gear to ensure the croc stays put.

Listen Juna, FGD is piggy backing on the works of people who are really trying to make a difference in China. Falun Gong is like a mute retarded kid who stands there next to someone who is doing something for real and just tries to appear to be part of it.

FGD has done nothing in the way of moving towards a more democratic China.

It's what is known as an emminence front, a put on. A flash, no substance, and what strange weird flash it is coming from them. A charismatic lunatic for a leader who swears you cannot be anything without him to show you what to be. This is a cult. If you don't uinderstand that, then I would have to say that you are a particularly stupid human being.

FGD has co-opted and corrupted what were otherwise useful practices and has twisted them to the agenda of Li to increase membership and dollars for himself to continue with his fantasy of being jesus like.

Juna, you wanna really do something positive and good, then join a group that is doing positive and good and get yoruself outta Li's cult before your head is complete mush.

[GLW]

David : EXACTLY SO! well put

[RAF]

The evil that the falun gong has perpetrated has been the deaths of their own members resulting the teachings of this cult.

How many falun gong members have died as a result of these misguided teachings?

Who keeps count? How many people have been lured to their deaths because of this horrible belief system? How many have been denied the benefits of modern medicine?

What sacrifices has your leader made? For whom? Where? Why?

I suggest you get a hold of Christopher Lasch's old book THE CULTURE OF NARCISSISM and take a good look at what the falun gong feeds on.

The falun gong are tragic and sad.

[scholar]

But you get to be a member of a super-secret special club that is the most advanced and spiritual in all of history. To be a member of the mystical super-best-friends, all you have to do is exactly repeat the magic spells that "master" tells you. "Master" is more spiritually powerful then Jesus, Buddha and Lao Tzu put together!!! You don't have to work on yourself, you don't have to grow personally or figure anything out, "master" will put his seed in you and you will be a god. Everyone else, no matter what they say or what arguments or proofs they offer, is against you, but that is OK, unless you can convince them to learn the magic spells too the "rectification" will "weed them out".

[Juna]

A former Beijing policeman and member of the Coalition to Investigate the Persecution of Falun Gong (CIPFG) revealed that there is an 'assembly line' system of organ harvesting in Beijing and the Chinese Communist regime forcefully removes people's organs without their consent. After a prisoner is sentenced to death in China, the actual date of his death seems to depend on the needs of transplant operations.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-7-17/43990.html

evil ccp!

[KC Elbows]

we'll see what comes of the alegations I suppose.

My bet is on "zero".

Trying to move CHina on matters of internal policy is akin to pulling teeth from a crocodile with only tweezers and no gear to ensure the croc stays put.

Listen Juna, FGD is piggy backing on the works of people who are really trying to make a difference in China. Falun Gong is like a mute retarded kid who stands there next to someone who is doing something for real and just tries to appear to be part of it.

FGD has done nothing in the way of moving towards a more democratic China.

It's what is known as an emminence front, a put on. A flash, no substance, and what strange weird flash it is coming from them. A charismatic lunatic for a leader who swears you cannot be anything without him to show you what to be. This is a cult. If you don't uinderstand that, then I would have to say that you are a particularly stupid human being.

FGD has co-opted and corrupted what were otherwise useful practices and has twisted them to the agenda of Li to increase membership and dollars for himself to continue with his fantasy of being jesus like.

Juna, you wanna really do something positive and good, then join a group that is doing positive and good and get yoruself outta Li's cult before your head is complete mush.

**** good post. Well said.