NP -- you renob, i specifically said:
soccer players can be brutal
there's no question about the toughness of soccer players. my point was that football has a higher degree of contact that warrants the use of pads. if football players hit each other just as hard but did it without pads, concussions would skyrocket, and deaths on the field would no longer be limited to basic spinal injuries. football has specific rules dictating how you can level someone -- not to the back unless they have the ball, and you cannot attack helmet-first. beyond that, almost anything goes. try the same stuff in soccer, and it's a red card, a suspension and, quite likely, a ban.
GOLF -- by definition, it's still a sport, because a higher degree of athleticism improves your game. however, if one looks at a lot of the players on the tour, other than the ability to walk a few miles and swing a stick accurately, there's not much athleticism required. can athleticism improve your golf game? yes. is being an athlete required to be a pro golfer, even on the PGA tour? **** no.
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And you have to be able to think quickly because the game doesn't stop every 10 seconds so you can decide what you are going to do next.
Well I happen to be a Red and its complete Bull that there are no MAN U fans in Manc out of a family of say 5 brothers 4 will be Reds. The only reason al lot of clubs hate MAN U is down to one simple fact our dominance over the Prem, pure and simple. Back in the 70's & 80's everyone hated Liverpool cause they were so succesful, Jealousy is a sad thing. I have worked down south and it does pi.ss me off to see southerners in MAN U shirts cause the only reason they support Utd is because of our success and that gets on my tits.
