How do you deal with a boxer's hopping?

[Mutant]

and there is difference between concussive impanct and penetrating impact; both hurt in diffent ways but both can do damage.

[Xebsball]

no its not

but i do like small gloves (mma ones), they are ok, not too unrealistic as the boxing ones

[MasterKiller]

They cosmetically protect the face. The ultimate result is less cosmetic damage and more KO's.

OK, I'll buy that.

They protect your hands ENOUGH so that you can throw full power shots to the head like without turning them into fleshy bags of broken calcium.

I think you're still talking about MMA gloves here. If so, how do boxing gloves not allow for full power shots? If the same damage is done, why do boxers wear heavier gloves?

[Ray Pina]

When they were trying to outlaw UFC in the beginning, Shamrock's biggest argument when testifying was that boxers are in actually more dnager of being hurt because they take waaay more shots ... the very padded gloves lead to taking more shots and Muhamid Ali-ism. UFC/Pride gloves protect your fist ... just a little padding over the knuckles. I've competed with both. Believe me, I'd rather eat a boxing glove than a MMA glove or bare fist anyday. How about you?

As far as wrapping and tape, I don't.

As far as listening to anybody that can press a couple of buttons and create a website -- I don't.

Have a training partner put a 12 oz glove on and crack ya in the head. Then have him do it bare knuckle. Come back tomorrow and tell me which caused more damage. Who cares if he breaks his hand or not. I'm talking about damage to you -- the other guy is always a bum, who cares about him.

Or, what if someone challenged you and requested that you wear 12 oz gloves and he'll go bare knuckle ... neither can wear head gear. Would you? Does that sound fair to you?

Of course the glove also protects your hand ... goes without saying. Your mouth piece keeps you from getting a concussion ... it just so happens it keeps me from having your tooth impale my fist. Should I say the mouthpiece is to protect my hand too?

[Shaolin-Do]

More or less it certainly is

MMA gloves I much prefer. Easier to grab, much more realistic getting hit with one. Kinda hurts sometimes tho.

[Water Dragon]

Back to the original questin. If you catch someone hopping or bouncing around, sweep them. You should be able to get some good air time as it is easy to time.

[Shaolin-Do]

Bouncing does make it quite easier to execute throws... Bouncing = no root.
Shuffle stepping, leaving one foot planted is different, but if they are straight up bouncing...

[Merryprankster]

Efist, define damage? I'd argue that getting knocked out is way worse than a nasty lump and a cut. I can fight with one of them. Hand protection allows you to throw with impunity.

Boxers wear heavier gloves because beyond a certain point, the cushioning absorbs some of the impact. I never said that boxing gloves didn't protect the head to some extent. BUT, they are primarily there to protect the hands from breakage.

As far as MMA gloves, it's just impossible to use bulky gloves and grapple effectively.

[Daredevil]

Originally posted by Merryprankster
As far as MMA gloves, it's just impossible to use bulky gloves and grapple effectively.

You're preaching to the choir, Merryprankster ... remember that we're the kung fu guys who can't apply our death touches or channel our chi blasts in boxing gloves!



That's why I like my MMA gloves.

[Crimson Phoenix]

when they used to fence for a sporting yet manly duel, and put a ball of cotton of fabric on the tip of the sword, was it to protect the sword?

[Shaolin-Do]

Do you wear a cup to protect your ears?


Gloves are multi purposefull... gives wrist support as well as keeping the hands from breaking, as well as keeping your face from being broken. I dont know why the hell you guys are arguing about it... seems kinda obvious to me.

[Water Dragon]

Originally posted by Crimson Phoenix
when they used to fence for a sporting yet manly duel, and put a ball of cotton of fabric on the tip of the sword, was it to protect the sword?

Yeah, and when you put a hat on the end of your Jimmy, is it to protect your, eh, bad example.

[Ray Pina]

I'll put it like this. Tournament wise, boxing gloves work well: It's one day of fighting where you fight 3 to 5 guys for only 2 to 3 rounds. You'll feel a little punch drunk, but you'll be OK after ya get some food and drink and sit down in front of the boob tube, take a nap. If it was bare knuckle, you have a greater chance of having some serious tissue and nerve damage because the strikes are more focused (broken cheak, ect.)

If I was competing every month, 7 to 12 rounds, I'd be nervous about boxing gloves from the shaking of the brain.

To put it another way, when I heal up I'll be fighting a guy much bigger than myself. For that I prefer to go bare knuckle, because I'll have to chop his limbs instead of head hunting, so knuckles is an advantage. Otherwise I'd just be massaging his arms.

At the same time, if I am beat it will be oever quicker

All E-Chuan grappling techinques can be peformed with boxing gloves because we do not use our hand to control. You can still hook a guys arm with a glove and control with the elbow.

[Shaolin-Do]

lofl@ jimmy hats. Havent heard that one in a while.
thanks for the laugh wd.

[Shaolin-Do]

Edit: I hate boxing gloves. After I hit someone, I like to grab cause my hand is already all the way over there, may as well bring some part of the body back with it. Cant really do that in boxing gloves... throws are a pain in the ass with boxing gloves on too.