Duende:

It IS becoming a back and forth game of ping pong - because plain and simple language is rarely ever used to describe what HFY looks like in action - the claim being that HFY is not technique based...we don't understand because our system is different...we haven't read the book so as to understand the formula...if only you would come to a Garrett Gee seminar then - then you would understand, etc. etc...

...so let's just say that we are at an impasse and let it go at that, because I'm losing interest in finding out more about HFY.