Originally posted by Jim Roselando
None would even attempt to do that stuff and none of Gin Soon's pupils that are on the net say they have ever seen any of this stuff at that school nor did some of my friends that studied there.
Actually I posted in the original thread
"I have trained at Gin Soon's school, worked with Vincent, and his father Gin Soon, and several of their senior students. The tapes are not the best representation of what is taught there.
Gin Soon has a fairly deep understanding of energy and rooting. He also practices li kong jin AS A MEANS OF UNDERSTANDING ENERGY, NOT AS A FIGHTING SKILL. It is recognized as a co-operative effort and Gin Soon only practices it with certain students. (I personally don't buy into it.)
I do not believe that Vincent's skills are near his father's, nor have I ever been moved in a manner as demonstrated on the tapes by either the father or the son.
In my opinion, posting those tapes on the internet was a bad idea.
For context only, I have seen and felt other neijia people with skill, including Luo De Xiu, Wang Hai Jun, Chen Zhen Lei (demonstration only, never actual contact with CZL) and B.K. Frantzis. The first person who ever hit me with fa jin, spurring my interest in neijia, also contributed to this thread, Buddy Tripp.
I offer these comments as someone who has trained at the school and knows the players, make your own judgments."
To be explicit, I have seen this at the school, in the context described above, and at demonstrations.
I stand by the post quoted above.
The more one sweats in times of peace, the less one bleeds in times of war.