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  1. 10-19-2003, 04:28 PM #1
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    Perceived facts vs the truth.

    Hi All.

    A slight OT topic, maybe, depends on where you guys take it.

    Just read an interesting article in todays paper by Harold Meyerson(source Washington Post) called "Watching Fox for fact-free Iraq news".

    Sorry, only got a link to the study not the article, for those who are interested.
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    This article deals with a research done about the iraq war and misperceptions that USA people have of major news events and facts relating to the war.
    They than polled the people where they got their news from and from whihc TV-news they got them (FOX, CBS, etc.). Very interesting read and just a bit scary, as it show that viewers from station A have certain misconceptions whereas viewers of station B got others, and some are shared between stations.

    Now this is a KF board and I think it is important for all of us to reflect on how valid are OUR perceptions to facts that are related to us.

    May it be BIG news like the Iraq War, or facts about style XYZ or similar.
    If we got misperceptions about things/events that can possible affect millions and our own lifes, isn't there a possibility that we got many of so called MA facts similarly wrong.

    It makes me think and question my knowledge.
    How about you?
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  2. 10-19-2003, 05:44 PM #2
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    Yeah, it makes me think and question your knowledge too.
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  3. 10-19-2003, 05:51 PM #3
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    Originally posted by Serpent
    Yeah, it makes me think and question your knowledge too.
    If you ain't got anything worthwhile to contribute, STFU.

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  4. 10-19-2003, 06:29 PM #4
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    Right back atcha.

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    Wow another left wing hand wringer bull **** knitting group, whoops, I mean a group of social science researchers whose purpose is to give the public a greater voice in the public policy process by seeking to discern public opinion on public policy and to communicate its findings to the policy community, academia and the press.

    But to the question
    If we got misperceptions about things/events that can possible affect millions and our own lifes, isn't there a possibility that we got many of so called MA facts similarly wrong?
    Yes. Some won't care if what their instructors teach is BS because they either don't know any better or it fits into their fantasy, others will be lucky to find someone who teaches them in a truthful realistic manner and others will seek out and research what is true.
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    Originally posted by T'ai Ji Monkey


    If you ain't got anything worthwhile to contribute, STFU.
    I do hope that serpant will use this forum to share other views of CMA. It may not be his intention of turning this into a comedy outlet although I do not recall his or her input that benifitted anyone on here.
    I am trying to be respectfull on here, although many of you may recall when I lowered myself in which I deeply regret.
    Everyone has something to contribute. Serpant, please let yours be something other than like the day I was a fool.
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    Rogue....you know what CNN stand for don't ya.

    Fox News is the number 1 watched news network.
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    Maybe it's just me, but I have this wierd idea that a news network should have reporters and investigators instead of just borderline-illiterate opinion mongers howling invective and verbally fellating Republican party leaders.

    And Fox News is even worse!
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    Originally posted by Bluesman


    I do hope that serpant will use this forum to share other views of CMA. It may not be his intention of turning this into a comedy outlet although I do not recall his or her input that benifitted anyone on here.
    I am trying to be respectfull on here, although many of you may recall when I lowered myself in which I deeply regret.
    Everyone has something to contribute. Serpant, please let yours be something other than like the day I was a fool.
    First of all, holy Bluesman, learn how to spell Serpent.

    Secondly, who the hell are you to tell me what or what not to do. You might not recall anything I've said being of interest, but you study Shaolin-Do, so how would you know good advice if you heard it?

    BTW, you're still a fool.

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    Originally posted by Serpent


    First of all, holy Bluesman, learn how to spell Serpent.

    Secondly, who the hell are you to tell me what or what not to do. You might not recall anything I've said being of interest, but you study Shaolin-Do, so how would you know good advice if you heard it?

    BTW, you're still a fool.
    Well, you got me! I can not argue with you as I am both a poor speller and a fool.
    The former post was meant to move the thread from one of flaming to one where we could learn from one another.
    If you wish, I will refrain from responding to your posts.
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    That's right. Now go away.
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    WOW. We got the two biggest idiots right here on one thread...

    Chang Style Novice- It's more obvious everyday that you are indeed THE biggest idiotic moron that I have ever met. Even worse than your mom.

    Serpent- Uhhhh, enough said...
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    Yeah, Bluesman, you spell 'serpent" M O R O N
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    Originally posted by crazymaddrunk
    WOW. We got the two biggest idiots right here on one thread...

    Chang Style Novice- It's more obvious everyday that you are indeed THE biggest idiotic moron that I have ever met. Even worse than your mom.

    Serpent- Uhhhh, enough said...
    Been let out of your padded cage for your daily exercise then have you?
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