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    I’ve been involved in MA in one form or another for the last 26 years. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) I moved a lot which allowed me to experience a wide variety of arts. I’ve always had an affinity for MA and trained wherever and whenever I could. Many times I didn’t have a choice as to what I trained in, as there just wasn’t much available where I was at the time so I trained where training was available…

    My first introduction to Martial Arts was in Kendo and Judo when I was six years old. Since then I’ve been around the block training in a TKD, boxing, Kyokushinkai, Traditional Jujutsu, Kempo, Neijia , JKD, BJJ and tried a few other arts… so yes, I’m a dabbler. Some of these arts I trained in for several years (none of the ones listed have I trained in for any less than 1.5 years).

    In the beginning I trained because my friends did and it was just “fun”. Being a kid that’s all I cared about. .
    During my teens and early twenties getting rank became a little more important and the vigorousness and the physicality of training (that is how much physical exertion was required for the workouts) was what I looked for, hence my Kyokushin and Kempo training (believe it or not my Kempo was really harsh training). Training to fight (or learning how to “fight”) was still not an issue. I figured it was a by-product of good hard training. When I got involved with Neijia (which was sort of by accident) I got intrigued with learning proper body mechanics, relaxation, and some of the health aspects. Since then I’ve kept my interest in body mechanics, principles of movement etc. My buddies, who were all into various “functional” martial arts, got me started in BJJ and JKD/C. This type of training opened my eyes as to what is a “workable” technique… however it’s not really my cup of tea. I neglected to mention my training in Jujutsu, which occurred while I was part of an exchange program to Japan (I also trained Kyokushin while there). This gave me my first taste into traditional JMA training, which created an on-going affinity with these arts.

    Since my initial experiences with a traditional Japanese art / dojo I have wanted to continue my studies in these arts (and never had the opportunity to do so until the past year and a half). Applicability in self-defense at this stage of my life is of minor concern. What I am concerned about is training in something that can be practiced regardless of age. An aspect that is important for me is that the chosen art has good biomechanics with sound principles with efficiency in technique. Learning an art that has had few changes over time and being able to continue the lineage in an accurate manner offers great value to me as well.

    I also feel that the study of budo (or other martial arts for that matter) is more than the study and memorization of physical techniques, but rather the study and preservation of a cultural “treasure” (art). This study should include language, etiquette, culture, history (at least as it relates to the art you study), and of course technical application of your art. I say these things because to not educate oneself about the culture and etiquette from your arts country of origin limits ones ability to properly interpret the original intent and meaning of ones chosen art, imho. I guess a large portion of my interest revolves around the subject of Hoplology - the study of the evolution and development of human combative behavior.

    Another interesting aspect of training for me is what the Japanese call "Ningen Keisei", character building. The main principle of this being ‘perseverance’, i.e. never giving up even when discouraged. So in essence, your training is about unceasing training... How you practice the art rather than what one practices, is the primary purpose of training. Obviously in this instance what I practice is of some consequence.

    And finally, the training has to be enjoyable! This particular part of training has never changed.

    Luckily I’ve found a place where I respect the teachers and the fellow students. The camaraderie in our dojo is awesome. It is a sogo bujutsu (a comprehensive martial curriculum consisting of unarmed and armed techniques) and I hope to be studying this for a very long time…

    Sorry for the long post guys.

    KG
    Last edited by Kempo Guy; 10-30-2003 at 03:43 PM.

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    Sorry for the long post?!

    Don't be. It was a good read.
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    "I'm in the process of figuring out that a lot of people just don't want to do what I do"

    I figured that out after about 7 people have stopped by our class... None have stayed. Still only Gene, Me, and CPA.
    "i would show them 8 hours of animal porn and beheadings in a single sitting then make them write a paper about italy." -GDA
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    Originally posted by Meat Shake
    "I'm in the process of figuring out that a lot of people just don't want to do what I do"

    I figured that out after about 7 people have stopped by our class... None have stayed. Still only Gene, Me, and CPA.
    getting thrown isn't most people's idea of fun. Neither is getting owned. We have similar probs in judo, bjj and mt.
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    Yeah... People give me funny looks when I talk happily about getting slapped in the face and thrown on the ground.
    "i would show them 8 hours of animal porn and beheadings in a single sitting then make them write a paper about italy." -GDA
    "he said there were tons of mantids fornicating everywhere. While he was there, he was sending me photos of mantis porn regularly." - Gene Ching

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    What I've come to realize is that no matter how hard or how long you work at something, no matter how many repititions, no matter if you finish exhausted and hurting, if what you're doing is crap, it'll still be crap and will always be crap.

    Quality of instruction makes such a difference.
    I quit after getting my first black belt because the school I was a part of was in the process of lowering their standards A painfully honest KC Elbows

    The crap that many schools do is not the crap I was taught or train in or teach.

    Dam nit... it made sense when it was running through my head.

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    Well... they fired Debbie Matenopoulus in 1999 and replaced her with Lisa Ling. Frankly, a change for the better. But Lisa is gone now, so it's gonna change again.

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    I've gotta say, this board's change my opinions in a totally different fashion. I used to think that I was a through-and-through WMA guy. The CMA camp seemed to be full of pompous windbags and nice people who just didn't train as hard as I wanted.

    Then, I started playing with Shuai Chiao guys and getting a taste of some good stuff. Not mind blowingly "touch-you-in-the-chest-and-your-liver-explodes" so, but nonetheless, these guys hit as hard as any boxer I'd met and the throws.... jesus, those throws! These guys were good. So, as a result, I've been training with them and slowly, I've been overwriting some of my previous notions of CMA.

    Unfortunately, while I've been lucky enough to meet some fantastic gung fu guys, I'm still convinced that a sh!tload of people AREN'T training their arts properly, aren't training smartly, and are just perpetuating the same nonsense that leads to CMAs losing functionality. However, for all the schmucks, there's at least 2 or three people starting to "Get it", for the lack of a better term. There's hope for CMAs yet.
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    oh change o views

    the views they change

    about martial arts: imho a waste for people my age
    we got better to do

    i dont care who disagrees, its the truth
    i wont get into details - wich i realise then course leaves you areas to argument with me, but if i took the time to go into detail, no way you could argument against me on this

    overview:

    martial arts take a big time of life one could be having more fun or searching for happiness whatever wherever it is - if yours is mainly in martial arts then ok
    most peoples isnt, mine isnt
    i stopped giving a fock about how hard i can hit or not, i dont give a fock
    martial arts havent stopped being fun, its just that there are things a lot more fun

    if i want to get in shape i go to a gym - its more effective than MA in doing such - plus its got way more hot chicks

    the self defense part - takes just way too much time of training for something you might only use like very very very few times in your life, that is IF you ever use, and its gonna be for very few minutes, not to say seconds...
    training years and years just for that moment? id rather give the money (that why carry few when rolling down the streets).

    LIFE - there is studies, there is parties, there is chicks, there is traveling... so much things id rather spend my time much more than martial arts

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    i will quote the great band Carcass:

    "Really done it now, sold out
    But to who, what, when, where and how,
    Yeah, really done it now, sold out,
    I've taken my cut
    And corporate rock really sucks"
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    why not Pantera


    Revenge
    I'm screaming revenge again
    Wrong
    I've been wrong for far too long
    Been constantly so frustrated
    I've moved mountains with less
    When I channel my hate to productive
    I don't find it hard to impress
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    Ahmen Bro!!
    Those that are the most sucessful are also the biggest failures. The difference between them and the rest of the failures is they keep getting up over and over again, until they finally succeed.


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    Unless you train like 35-50 hours a week, you should have more than enough time for everything else.
    "i would show them 8 hours of animal porn and beheadings in a single sitting then make them write a paper about italy." -GDA
    "he said there were tons of mantids fornicating everywhere. While he was there, he was sending me photos of mantis porn regularly." - Gene Ching

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    I take it you don't have kids.
    Those that are the most sucessful are also the biggest failures. The difference between them and the rest of the failures is they keep getting up over and over again, until they finally succeed.


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    Jesus no. I turned 20 like 3 days ago. Fock all that.

    Edit: But time spent with kids is the equivalent to the time I spend going out.
    Unless you are divorced, then you gotta go ass fishing too.
    "i would show them 8 hours of animal porn and beheadings in a single sitting then make them write a paper about italy." -GDA
    "he said there were tons of mantids fornicating everywhere. While he was there, he was sending me photos of mantis porn regularly." - Gene Ching

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