Guns and MA's...hahaha

[BentMonk]

So how does one realistically practice disarming someone with a gun? The only way I could see you getting any kind of real feedback on the effectiveness of your techniques would be by using a paintball gun or the like. Has anyone on here really worked on this? Does anyone know of someone using said techniques in the real world? I'm just curious. Although I have to agree with those who have said that if they knew they were more than likely going to get shot anyway, you might as well go out swinging.

[Judge Pen]

Originally posted by sticky fingers


geez, I thought Daewoo only made cars

My first VCR was a Daewoo.

MS, 9mms have a nice velocity to them, but the bullet doesn't have the same knock down power a .45 automatic would have to it. My dad is a hunter and a gun afficiando and I have been around guns all of my life. I have no false sense of security if someone pointed a gun at me. Do what they want unless you reasonably belive they will kill you or someone you care about.

I don't care how fast you are or how much training you have, their trigger finger is likely faster than your best "disarming" technique.

[dwid]

Well...a .50 will definitely drop someone no matter where you hit them.

No offense, but it doesn't sound like you have much experience with guns. Lots of things will drop someone no matter where you hit them. A .45 auto, a 12 gauge, and neither of these has the problem a .50 would likely have of going through the person, through your wall, and still having enough kinetic energy to kill someone else.

Lots of weapons are good for home defense, a DE isn't one of them. They look really cool, and they're available with gold plating for that gangsta look, but practical home defense they are not.

[Fred Sanford]

shot placement is more important than caliber.

the DE .50 is a joke

[dwid]

shot placement is more important than caliber.

Amen to that.

Unless we're talking about a zombie apocalypse, which I'm willing to discuss with anyone who wants to take the thread in that direction, putting even one or two low-caliber rounds into most intruders' center of mass will, at the very least, make them rethink their desire to victimize your particular household.

[FatherDog]

I have very little practical knowledge of guns, but everyone I know who does (ie, military, police, and/or hardcore shooters) are pretty united in saying that the DE is an "armchair shooter's" piece (i.e., no one who actually uses guns would use one.)

[dwid]

I concur.

I know some **** hardcore shooters, and the DE never even comes up in conversations about quality handguns.

[MasterKiller]

I have a Security Six .357, never shot it, though. Someone gave it to me because they owed me money, and I'm not exactly sure it's legal.

[joedoe]

I'd heard the Israeli army use the DE as a side arm. Can anyone confirm this?

Seems to me to be some serious overkill in a handgun. I can understand its use in a military situation, but for personal protection it seems to be a case of using a hammer to kill a fly.

[dwid]

I'd heard the Israeli army use the DE as a side arm. Can anyone confirm this?

I would be profoundly surprised if this were true. Given the fact that a lot of the Israeli army is composed of teenagers, more or less, and the carbine they use is only a 9mm, it would seem odd that their sidearm would be so much larger. It would be highly impractical for any military to use such a large and unwieldy gun as the sidearm. The whole point of a sidearm, especially in military applications, is it is highly maneuverable for use in tight spaces, under diress, etc...

I would wager dollars to donuts that whatever sidearm the Israeli's use, it is a 9mm or something in that range.

Well, if this info is reliable...according to this website, the DE is the weapon of choice for Israeli police.

http://www.planethalflife.com/borkedhazard/weapons.asp

I just noticed this is a video game site, so I wouldn't stake much on the quality of info, but who knows.

[joedoe]

That all makes sense.

[Fu-Pow]

I don't care how fast you are or how much training you have, their trigger finger is likely faster than your best "disarming" technique.

I don't care how fast you are or how much training you have, their trigger finger is likely faster than your best "disarming" technique.

That was my whole point.

[rogue]

I don't care how fast you are or how much training you have, their trigger finger is likely faster than your best "disarming" technique.

Fu-Pow, your not trying to be faster than the trigger finger or the bullet. And who said anything about wanting to disarm the assaulter? We're hoping to use blanks for practice as soon as we can make them and test them. Gotta get the amount of powder right.

[Meat Shake]

haters.

A DE is just super cool. Im not ever going to use my ****ing swords either, now am I? So who cares if I decide to waste money on a gangsta ass sterling silver DE .50 with 24K accent pieces.

[dwid]

Well, if you don't intend to use it, get some kind of replica or something. It will be lots cheaper, and as long as you keep people from examining it closely, you can be every bit as cool.

In this case, I recommend going with dual 24K replicas, so you can pretend to be Nicolas Cage's character from Face-Off