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    http://stickgrappler.tripod.com/mt/mt.html

    that'll keep you busy for a little while.
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    go to underground kickboxing forum and if you want a good asnwer create a thread Attn:Khun Kao (Brooks Miller)

    or check out the AXkickboxing forum. Sandy Holt provides good info.
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    How is Khun Kao doing, he hasn't been here in a while that I've seen....
    practice wu de


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    i was sparring him sunday......... he's well... i'm bruised....
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    lol.. cool.. sounds good.
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  6. #96

    seven "energies" of muay thai

    I was digging through the archives and found a book that details the various aspects of a power generation. Below is a summary of each energy:


    transition: energy gained from motion relative to an opponent's position

    velocity: speed of the body and body weapon as it approaches its target

    rotation: turning of the hip while delivering a strike

    snap: quick forward motion of the shoulder when punching, or the sharp turning of the foot when kicking. This is not to be confused with the snapping back of kicks seen in tma.

    torque: spinning of the hand just before impact - this energy occurs only in punching.

    triangulation: dropping the hand, foot or elbow down upon impact, driving the energy of the strike downward

    gravitation: pull of the earth, connection to it - provides all leverage for attack and defense.
    Last edited by SevenStar; 07-31-2004 at 07:49 AM.
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    no no no 7*.

    It's impossible that a non-Chinese indigenous art could have come up with some sort of energy concept that is correct.

    On the off chance it is correct, it is clearly influenced/derived from a Chinese art.

    When will you ever learn?
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    Well, in fairness, Thailand isn't far from China.

    Still, those don't seem to correspond with the energies I'm familiar with from taiji, and I see plenty of value in it.
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    My seven energies of muay thai:

    1. Caffeine

    2. Caffeine

    3. Caffeine

    4. Caffeine

    5. Red Bull (it's on the muay thai boxing shorts and so I assume it's a sponsor)

    6. Red Bull

    7. Red Bull.
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    snap: quick forward motion of the shoulder when punching, or the sharp turning of the foot when kicking. This is not to be confused with the snapping back of kicks seen in tma.
    i got the shoulder thing, but what do you mean by turning of the foot exactly.

    .... the only thing i can think of is this one kick i used to do that started off as a low front and you kinda popped your hips to turn it into a side kick at impact. i dont think thats what you're talking about though.
    where's my beer?

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    when doing "snap" with the foot, I think it ties in with triangulation. When kicking to the legs, as the hip turns over the leg/foot naturally turns with it, and the kick can then be angled down, which is another turn of the foot, and is where the triangulation is introduced.

    Iron, yeah, red bull has been sponsoring matched in thailand for years. I just recently found that out too. We talked about it in a thread here not too long ago

    http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/foru...light=red+bull
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    Originally posted by Merryprankster
    no no no 7*.

    It's impossible that a non-Chinese indigenous art could have come up with some sort of energy concept that is correct.

    On the off chance it is correct, it is clearly influenced/derived from a Chinese art.

    When will you ever learn?
    You mean like this?

    Or this?

    Or maybe this one?
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  13. #103
    In that first image, the guy in guard shoulda been trying to posture, not attack - his elbows should be in and he should be passing. Who taught that guy?

    the second pic is a preferred takedown of the capoeira instructor that teaches in our school
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    The last pic conclusively demonstrates the CMA influence on Professional Wrestling.

    "But to be the man you gotta beat the man...and I'm the Man!

    Whoooooo!"

    I can see it now...

    And it's "Black Sash Wong" coming of the top ropes, OH but "Super Dragon Master Liu" rolls out of the way.

    The Black Sash is hurt folks! What a colossal mistake! He missed with Flying Gorilla Shakes the Earth! Liu pounds him with the toe of his boot - that's illegal!

    Now Liu attacks Wong's leg with his patented "Dragon Snaps the Tree!" Wong cries out to the referree. The Ref is asking if Wong wants to continue.... but he taps out! He gives in to the submission. What a colossal upset! The "Shadow Hand Rebellion" - his brothers in arms - are dismayed.

    The Dragon Master wins again!!!

    Of course, the UG's pretty sure it's a worked match.



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    Originally posted by Merryprankster
    You know what I think is amazing? That wheels are round the world over...they seem to work best that way
    Wheel=chinese.
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