general opinion of ninjitsu?

[totallyfrozen]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mild7:
it is interesting how some ppl just put down ninjitsu without base. ninjitsu works and that's that.
yes, it's true that a lot of the art of ninjitsu is'nt taught nowadays(espionage etc) that's why Soke Hatsumi prefers to call the art Budo Taijutsu, as it is focused on fighting nowadays.
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The skills of the ninja ARE taught today...but by another name. The ideas, and even some techniques of ninjitsu are what made up alot of the things that military elite units do.
Stealth (or "secrets of invisibility" as our superhero NinjaStar would call it), recon (espionage), determination, courage, etc.
I guess I'm saying the arts aren't lost...they are just not really applicable in a civilian setting so they don't usually get taught in a dojo. How many martial arts schools want to be held liable for teaching you how to sneak up on someone and kill them from behind with a knife? That's ninjitsu..but it's not legal outside the military arena. You see what I mean?
Of course, I could be somewhat wrong. Maybe Ashida Kim or Stephen K. Hayes DOES teach assasination and ambush techniques.
I don't know...
good question, I guess.




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[origenx]

I'd like to see someone disappear or morph into an animal. I really would.

[rmata2001]

A while back in New York, I knew of a CNE (Certified Novell Engineer), who had spent most of his childhood in Japan training with his uncle in a system called Togakure Ryu. He stated that there are quite a few number of "ancients" around and thriving today.

[rmata2001]

Around the time that I was training, some of my buddies and I visited these supposedly "Ninjitusu" schools in Manhattan. Man, it was a joke. What these guys were doing resembled nothin that we was learning.
Training for us didn't take place in a kwoon or school. We used to train, after work, in a park in Brooklyn. Many nights we trained outdoor in frigid weather, i.e. under 10 degrees. We would do taijutsu, grappling, multiple attacks, kihonju (don't grade me on spelling), aikijitsu, build fires, bo training, tumbling, climbing, philosophy, history, mindset, theories, etc.

Many times we would reported to work the next day with bruises, once with a black eye and repeat the whole thing again the next day. And not once were we charged for the training. Which is probably why we got our asses kicked.

It was a privelege and an honor to train w/ CNE. This guy's amazing. Incredible power, speed, flexibility and strength. On a whim, he once was goaded into entering a martial arts tournament by some friends and he walked away with the grand prize in kumite.

He said that everything is ninjitsu and shared a story with us to help demonstrate this:

A guy, who had a black belt in karate, went to get his car that he had parked in a parking lot. As he got in the driver's seat and before he could turn the ignition on, a mugger appeared from nowhere and demanded his money. Remembering he had a gun under his seat, the black belt reached for it and shot the mugger. When asked by a bystander if he had used his art to subdue the mugger, the black belt said, "No, I didn't have a chance to use it."

The same thing happened to a ninjitsu man and when asked by a bystander if he had used his art, he replied with, "Of course I did. I shot him between the eyes."

Everything is ninjitsu.

[totallyfrozen]

Sounds like Ninjitsu and Jeet Kune Do aren't much different. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

By the way, wouldn't a "ninjitsu man" be called a Ninja? Or is Ninja some high rank in ninjitsu?

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[mild7]

Yes, ninjitsu is actually very similar to Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do. Almost like a more traditional version of JFJKD that focuses on weapons more.
It still is'nt a complete martial art though, much like JFJKD. Groundfighting is a little deficient.

In general a ninjitsu man could be called a ninja... but it does'nt sound 'nice', sounds like an assassin or something. Anyway 'ninjitsu' is simply the slang term for the art. The art is now referred to as Budo Taijutsu(in Japan). But America is a little slow to catch on.. probly because some ninja schools are still trying to cash in on the ninjitsu name.