Ngo Cho VingTsun website from Indoneasia

[FIRE HAWK]

http://www.geocities.com/indowingchun/maine.html

[Phenix]

Great invention ! Why not?

[John Weiland]

Originally posted by FIRE HAWK
http://www.geocities.com/indowingchun/maine.html

Is that Yip Man on the dummy?

[yylee]

here is a link to VIKOGA http://www.vikoga.com/

[kj]

"Geocubicone" ...

[Phenix]

Originally posted by yylee
here is a link to VIKOGA http://www.vikoga.com/

Great resourse.

Lao Soon is from Leong Jan's line.
Wu Yau Wen or Y Wu is the student of Hawkin?

Why Not? it is a matrix world. what is real?

[yylee]

Originally posted by kj
"Geocubicone" ...

I guess he meant to say tetrahedron within a cube. Perhaps someone from Leow's line can contribute.

try spining the cones with your mouse in this site.
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Tetrahedron.html


Phenix

I've heard about VIKOGA years ago, this is the first time I saw their official site.

[canglong]

Their definition and description of what is and is not wing chun is well stated.

[Phenix]

Originally posted by yylee


I guess he meant to say tetrahedron within a cube. Perhaps someone from Leow's line can contribute.

try spining the cones with your mouse in this site.
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Tetrahedron.html


Phenix

I've heard about VIKOGA years ago, this is the first time I saw their official site.

YY,

I heard about the founder via sifu Ku Chai Wa of Singapore. Sifu Ku is a close relative of Rev Lao Soon and GM Cho On.

As for Y Wu, one of the author of the complete WC, Rene and Robert might be able to tell if he is a student of Hawkin or not.
The last time I heard, his ex sifu is sifu Ku Chai Wa not Rev. Lau soon. Y Wu was also asking my siheng to teach him for a short period of time.

Linking Y WU to Rev Lao Soon to Leong Jan line is not respecting Sifu Ku, Rev Lao Soon, GM Cho On and Yik Kam.

Yik Kam is the school brothers' of Wong Wah Po.
Rev. Lao was a close relative of GM Cho On. and, sifu Ku who taught Wu and introduced Wu to sifu Ku's senior Rev. Lao.
Y Wu is no longer related to Cho family art in my understanding. Strange how he did the family tree. May be this is an old non updated version before he learn about who is Yik Kam , after the published of the complete WC book and no longer study with Sifu Ku.

But it seems that it is a Matrix world. everyone can make up thier own HIS-Story. why not.

I must be tooo old fashion always trying to make blood line clear. out dated erh. Need to go see my vampire head from the red boat, friend of vampire Lestart in SEA this x mas.

[Jim Roselando]

Hello,


As far as I know Leung Jan and Lao Soon have no relations with their Kung Fu. I have spoken with a friend of Victor Leow's about a year ago telling them that the Lineage chart on his Vikoga web site was way off. This person relayed the info. to Victor but No changes we ever made!

I also know for sure that Victor Leow has recently travelled to China to train with Fung Keung sifu! A Wong Shun Leung friend and I have spoken about this as he also has visited Fung sifu for some trianing.


See ya,

[Phenix]

Hi JIm,

With the discussion here, I hope Victor and Y Wu Update their family tree,

Similar to the time of Complete WC where Rene very responsively put correction up when I send him the info.

[reneritchie]

I've exchanged emails with Victor on occasion. He's interesting. He has a somewhat liberal take on what constitutes a 'student'.

While in LA with Robert and I, Yewmun did take a private lesson with Hawkins Cheung sifu to learn the knives, so it would depend on your definition and ideology on 'student'.

Lau Soon was not a student of Leung Jan.

People can say anything on the Web. Discernment requires knowledge which requires both experience and logical reasoning skills (sometimes deductive reasoning

I don't know about Matrix, or Geocubicone, but why not combine for some Tetragramaton Equillibrium?

[planetwc]

Hey Rene,

Speaking of Equilibrium, how is your gun kata?

[reneritchie]

For a Canadian, I am high level. For an American, probably not as good as a sector 1 initiate.

[Nick Forrer]

What I dont understand is why Christian Bale adopted an American accent when many of his fellow actors kept their English/Welsh accents and the location of the film is never specified as being America anyway??

**** that annoyed me when I was watching it