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  1. #16
    Originally posted by Phenix


    You are welcome.

    I gues I need to bug Rene to write Complete WC version two.
    since there is no Cho family Yik Kam WCK in the first version.
    The second version will be called "More Complete WC"

    and the third version will be called "Even More Complete WC"....

  2. #17
    Originally posted by Phenix


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    Originally posted by yylee
    The "Dong" character is written as "soup above + pot below", go figure....
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    Creammy musroom soup!
    Wait a minute! That's ironing, or is that a lot of iron in the soup?

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    Wink

    This thread as turned into "Dong Hit Faan Wing Chun"!....

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    When the dong hits the faan- you have to use running hand-charmin jau sau.

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    Re: wck power issuing

    Originally posted by Phenix
    so, how do WCK deliver a punch?
    Different shape? Different methods?
    How?
    say, for a straight sun punch towards the sandbag, imagine putting the fist inside the sand bag when you deliver. As for the elbow part, I tend to image there is some force coming from the space "underneath" the elbow, rather than from the elbow joint itself. This way the muscle condition is like "flesh hanging under the bone" as Jim R puts it in the other thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenix View Post
    Joy,

    Yik Kam has 4 key points in issuing power.

    SuK ------Shrink
    Laat ----- release
    Chaan ---- vibrate
    Dong----- Swing.


    In my understanding, in my lineage, for passed 60 years not too many know these points, understand these key points, and the structure according to the points. to be able to generate it.

    Thus, might be another lost art .......
    Quote Originally Posted by Phenix View Post
    Thus, I have heard. Swing is swinging.

    I guess there is someway to use momentum...... pendulum-ing? Just my guess.
    Hendrik, are you saying your sifu didn't even teach you one of the 4 ways to issue power in your lineage? Did you not complete the system? Who told you this 4th power even exists, or were you just guessing? How much of YK WC did you actually learn - only 75%??
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  7. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by JPinAZ View Post
    Hendrik, are you saying your sifu didn't even teach you one of the 4 ways to issue power in your lineage? Did you not complete the system? Who told you this 4th power even exists, or were you just guessing? How much of YK WC did you actually learn - only 75%??

    Originally Posted by Phenix View Post
    Joy,

    Yik Kam has 4 key points in issuing power.

    SuK ------Shrink
    Laat ----- release
    Chaan ---- vibrate
    Dong----- Swing.


    In my understanding, in my lineage, for passed 60 years not too many know these points, understand these key points, and the structure according to the points. to be able to generate it.

    Thus, might be another lost art .......
    Originally Posted by Phenix View Post
    Thus, I have heard. Swing is swinging.

    I guess there is someway to use momentum...... pendulum-ing? Just my guess.
    Wow, 2003 long time posting!!! This showed Hendrik a liar a liar a liar a liar again.

    Sifu Wayne Yung always mentions that Hendrik never complete his ykwc SNT because Hendrik staying with him for few years for the scwc stuff to rebuild his ykwc SNT. Also, complete and incomplete, sifu Wayne Yung referred to the way how to play and the applications too.

    JPinAZ, you are right, in 2003, Hendrik SNT arts maybe less than 75 %. Till today, we still cannot see how Hendrik does his Hendrik ykwc SNT in one smooth play. Even he can play the form, does it mean the way he plays right and he knows all the applications. Today, he can also make his Hendrik ykwc SNT from the SNT youtubes of GM Ku and GM Cheung both from Malaysia.

    In 1998 Hendrik video, Sifu Wayne Yung mentioned he never see Hendrik play his SNT form smoothly.

    I don't think this 1998 SNT video is a complete set too. Hendrik said this video was recorded in Robert's school. In case of anything happened on him, Rene Ritch, Robert Chu both keep a copy of that. The video there sure is not a completer SNT playing. There are a lot of stop, think and play motions there. Also, it seems a first time meeting with robert chu. It is likely ykwc and yipman wck exchange more than just recording.

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    Is this thread (from 2003) the start of a zombie apocalypse?

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  9. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by JPinAZ View Post
    Hendrik, are you saying your sifu didn't even teach you one of the 4 ways to issue power in your lineage? Did you not complete the system? Who told you this 4th power even exists, or were you just guessing? How much of YK WC did you actually learn - only 75%??
    That is because it is from the Kuit Ku Sifu gave him in 2000, as Santo as posted, the one he incorrectly said is mixed with CLF.

    縮 脫 震 蕩 腰 馬 正
    Suk Lat Chan Tong Yiu Ma Jing
    Shrinking, throwing, vibrating, swing (describes the utilising of power), the horse stance must be correct.

    There are not 4 "KEY" utilisations of power there are many. The full sentence speaks for it's self.

    Others are:
    念 頭 膀 手 龍 擺 尾
    The Idea of Bong Sau is like a dragon flipping/swaying its tail - CLF ???

    落 睜 夾 膀 虎 跳 蹄
    Lowering and closing in your elbows like a tiger ready to pounce forward

    摽 手 冲 拳 從 胸 發
    Darting hand and the thrusting fist are delivered from the chest

    二 字 拑 陽 力 滾 身
    The character 2 clamping yang stance will give you energy throughout your body
    Note: remember Sergio talking about this in one of his videos.

    Etc etc etc

    His the explanation of 蕩 Tong (Dong) swing is way off.
    I am just here for the laugh and entertainment but just thought I'd contribute this time.

    Carlos
    Last edited by FongSung; 06-19-2014 at 03:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anerlich View Post
    Is this thread (from 2003) the start of a zombie apocalypse?
    Naw, the zombies have been running around here for years now.
    Actually, there's some decent discussions on this forum if you go back 10 years ago, I just found this one a bit funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FongSung View Post
    That is because it is from the Kuit Ku Sifu gave him in 2000, as Santo as posted, the one he incorrectly said is mixed with CLF.

    縮 脫 震 蕩 腰 馬 正
    Suk Lat Chan Tong Yiu Ma Jing
    Shrinking, throwing, vibrating, swing (describes the utilising of power), the horse stance must be correct.

    There are not 4 "KEY" utilisations of power there are many. The full sentence speaks for it's self.

    Others are:
    念 頭 膀 手 龍 擺 尾
    The Idea of Bong Sau is like a dragon flipping/swaying its tail - CLF ???

    落 睜 夾 膀 虎 跳 蹄
    Lowering and closing in your elbows like a tiger ready to pounce forward

    摽 手 冲 拳 從 胸 發
    Darting hand and the thrusting fist are delivered from the chest

    二 字 拑 陽 力 滾 身
    The character 2 clamping stance will give you energy throughout your body
    Note: remember Sergio talking about this in one of his videos.

    Etc etc etc

    His the explanation of 蕩 Tong (Dong) swing is way off.
    I am just here for the laugh and entertainment but just thought I'd contribute this time.

    Carlos
    Nice to see you here Carlos!

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  12. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by FongSung View Post
    That is because it is from the Kuit Ku Sifu gave him in 2000, as Santo as posted, the one he incorrectly said is mixed with CLF.

    縮 脫 震 蕩 腰 馬 正
    Suk Lat Chan Tong Yiu Ma Jing
    Shrinking, throwing, vibrating, swing (describes the utilising of power), the horse stance must be correct.

    There are not 4 "KEY" utilisations of power there are many. The full sentence speaks for it's self.

    Others are:
    念 頭 膀 手 龍 擺 尾
    The Idea of Bong Sau is like a dragon flipping/swaying its tail - CLF ???

    落 睜 夾 膀 虎 跳 蹄
    Lowering and closing in your elbows like a tiger ready to pounce forward

    摽 手 冲 拳 從 胸 發
    Darting hand and the thrusting fist are delivered from the chest

    二 字 拑 陽 力 滾 身
    The character 2 clamping yang stance will give you energy throughout your body
    Note: remember Sergio talking about this in one of his videos.

    Etc etc etc

    His the explanation of 蕩 Tong (Dong) swing is way off.
    I am just here for the laugh and entertainment but just thought I'd contribute this time.

    Carlos


    Everyone are free to have their opinion.

    However, as the following photo shows. Multiple points matching, What is belongs to CLF belongs to CLF.
    One just have to be honest .
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  13. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by FongSung View Post
    That is because it is from the Kuit Ku Sifu gave him in 2000, as Santo as posted, the one he incorrectly said is mixed with CLF.

    縮 脫 震 蕩 腰 馬 正
    Suk Lat Chan Tong Yiu Ma Jing
    Shrinking, throwing, vibrating, swing (describes the utilising of power), the horse stance must be correct.

    There are not 4 "KEY" utilisations of power there are many. The full sentence speaks for it's self.

    Others are:
    念 頭 膀 手 龍 擺 尾
    The Idea of Bong Sau is like a dragon flipping/swaying its tail - CLF ???

    落 睜 夾 膀 虎 跳 蹄
    Lowering and closing in your elbows like a tiger ready to pounce forward

    摽 手 冲 拳 從 胸 發
    Darting hand and the thrusting fist are delivered from the chest

    二 字 拑 陽 力 滾 身
    The character 2 clamping yang stance will give you energy throughout your body
    Note: remember Sergio talking about this in one of his videos.

    Etc etc etc

    His the explanation of 蕩 Tong (Dong) swing is way off.
    I am just here for the laugh and entertainment but just thought I'd contribute this time.

    Carlos

    Same as the above CLF related,

    The following photo shows evidence related to Fujian white Crane
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  14. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by FongSung View Post
    That is because it is from the Kuit Ku Sifu gave him in 2000, as Santo as posted, the one he incorrectly said is mixed with CLF.

    縮 脫 震 蕩 腰 馬 正
    Suk Lat Chan Tong Yiu Ma Jing
    Shrinking, throwing, vibrating, swing (describes the utilising of power), the horse stance must be correct.

    There are not 4 "KEY" utilisations of power there are many. The full sentence speaks for it's self.

    Others are:
    念 頭 膀 手 龍 擺 尾
    The Idea of Bong Sau is like a dragon flipping/swaying its tail - CLF ???

    落 睜 夾 膀 虎 跳 蹄
    Lowering and closing in your elbows like a tiger ready to pounce forward

    摽 手 冲 拳 從 胸 發
    Darting hand and the thrusting fist are delivered from the chest

    二 字 拑 陽 力 滾 身
    The character 2 clamping yang stance will give you energy throughout your body
    Note: remember Sergio talking about this in one of his videos.

    Etc etc etc

    His the explanation of 蕩 Tong (Dong) swing is way off.
    I am just here for the laugh and entertainment but just thought I'd contribute this time.

    Carlos



    #1 #2 of The following photo shows
    it is qouting of the emei 12 zhuang related Y7 Y8 of YKSLT full kuit.
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    Last edited by Hendrik; 06-19-2014 at 07:34 AM.

  15. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by FongSung View Post
    That is because it is from the Kuit Ku Sifu gave him in 2000,
    Carlos


    It would be nice if people in your lineage is consistence.

    Check the previous posts in this forum .


    The stories including .

    Ku and me have never met, Ku never wrote me letter, and now Ku give me his kuit of his lineage in 2000.

    Everytime, the story changes after I show an evidence between Ku and myself.

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