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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    A major bonus is i can just shoot lightning at my food to cook it myself.
    Not to mention all the fun at birthday parties, barmitzvahs and swingers clubs !
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    I worked as Sifu Lam's Shipping Manager for WLE for a few years. Being in that position you get to field allot of questions. Often I would get a question about VISION LOSS, something to the effect of;

    Have you heard of or experienced loss of vision from practicing iron palm in the long term? I read that by using the tiger claw strike in iron palm you overstimulate the meridians connected to the eyes that terminate in the fingertips and thus damage the eyes.

    I had to field this question many times back in the 90's. It became comical to me. Because eventually I got disgusted and told the last guy that if he went blind from doing Iron Palm...Then he was most likely doing SOMETHING ELSE with his palm. LOL@@@!!!

    But seriously, Sifu's method (Ku Yu Cheung) is more like putting drops in the bucket. It's consitent, steady to make you stronger and not meant to injure you. Only if you abuse yourself or try to cut corners do you pay the price for rushing it.

    I had spoken with people who said that thier Piano Playing improved immensely....or a professional rock climber that said that "His hand-holds were really improved from Iron Palm training".

    Avoid the 3 "D's" , NEVER:
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    -Deface yourself in anyway (aka visibly scar yourself) It's not nesscessary in the modern day.

    The body has natural hard points already that do not need to be abused. You just have to train properly and healthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subitai View Post
    I worked as Sifu Lam's Shipping Manager for WLE for a few years. Being in that position you get to field allot of questions. Often I would get a question about VISION LOSS, something to the effect of;


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    This is also the danger I've heard of with fingertip conditioning. The prevention, as I was taught, is to simply use jow as you would normally. Without the jow, you risk injuries.

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    There are Chinese recipes for tonics to "brighten the eyes" you can take while doing this type of training as well, just FYI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
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    I bet he wishes he had that kind of power !
    As do we all !!
    BBBWWAAAHHHH !!!!!!!!!
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    fwiw, i did two methods. one early, in my late teens, that was 'hard'. never to a 'deformed' point, but gradually hitting hard and harder objects with more and more force.

    the second, later around 30, was supposedly the KYC method. i have a lot of personal observations from this time period but they are most surely entirely subjective and so...

    my takeaway in general is that if you have to take all the jow and tonics to prevent the damage from the iron palm training then you probably need to rethink the training.

    and, ftr, i'm not going to argue/debate the above statement, have at it if you will. it's just my opinion.
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    Greetings,

    "my takeaway in general is that if you have to take all the jow and tonics to prevent the damage from the iron palm training then you probably need to rethink the training"

    BINGO!!!!


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    the medicine is used to heal injuries. its not magic juice. if you need to constantly apply it you are doing it wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    the medicine is used to heal injuries. its not magic juice. if you need to constantly apply it you are doing it wrong


    The medicine is said to be preventative as well.

    So, applying it before a training session would be appropriate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronWeasel View Post
    The medicine is said to be preventative as well.

    So, applying it before a training session would be appropriate.
    the medicine doesnt heal nerve damage, but the signs dont show up right away.

    with light hitting methods it doesnt even matter whether you put on medicine or not. you put on medicine when you do the accesory exercises with the sandbag or wooden post.
    Last edited by bawang; 10-06-2012 at 06:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    the medicine doesnt heal nerve damage, but the signs dont show up right away.

    with light hitting methods it doesnt even matter whether you put on medicine or not. you put on medicine when you do the accesory exercises with the sandbag or wooden post.



    Medicine...every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronWeasel View Post
    Medicine...every time.
    its not magic juice. and its toxic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    its not magic juice. and its toxic.


    It's a tincture, and it's only harmful if ingested.

    My instructor has done and seen IP trained WITH and WITHOUT. He says that the medicine is vital.

    Two things wil cause you injury (fracture, nerve damage, deformity, blood clot):

    1) Striking the target structure too hard

    2) Too many strikes per session


    The medicine is not magic, but it will help to mitigate any damage and will promote healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronWeasel View Post
    It's a tincture, and it's only harmful if ingested.

    My instructor has done and seen IP trained WITH and WITHOUT. He says that the medicine is vital.
    heavier strikes with constant use of medicine is called fast method. light strikes with less medicine is called slow method. neither one is wrong.

    when you hit heavy your bones are damaged every time but it doesnt give pain. thats why you must put on the medicine every time.

    in chinese kung fu you "must" drink hard liquor when there is fog or evil spirits will attack you. you have to think with reason.
    Last edited by bawang; 10-06-2012 at 07:04 PM.

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