1954 White Crane - Tai Chi fight

[GeneChing]

Now that KL's stepped down from moderation, he can be king of the flame wars.

Back to the notions of "old school" and who "should be in the ring at all", a lot of that is over romanticized, IMO. Sure, I don't want to appear unfilial, the old masters were great and all, but who of us is really qualified to say what the "old school" was like? Was it really that different? Or was it like this video? History can play tricks on your perceptions, tainted by your world personal world view. A lot of people want to imagine that martial arts is so much better - that fights should be so much cleaner. But fights are fights, and any of us who have really stepped into a ring know that while a clean, old school technique is all fine a dandy, I'd rather opt for the technique that scores.

The video looks fairly authentic - maybe the exact date is not correct, but who would bother to stage something like this as a charade? What would be gained? So I think that the validity isn't so much an issue here. Even if the date is off by a bit, it still stands as an interesting historical document for our field where few such documents exist.

It also shows us that when you rely on a right "stamp the seal" punch to heavily, you can get clocked upside the head real easy.

[David Jamieson]

The video is authentic, even eddie wu who runs the wu tai chi school here in T.O has it up on his site. That is his Grandpa after all in that match.

So, If eddie says it's for real, then it's for real. It is his lineage after all.

Gene~ I am not comfortable with being a "flamer" lol, but Ok and only if I get to wear the Red robes with the gold dragon and I am NOT putting on the opera makeup for no-one!

It's hard to fight and look good. Heck, it's hard to do a horse stance properly when your sihing won't shut up and keeps correcting you while you are trying to quiet yourself lol.

Ross, I would take you on as a new nemesis, but I'd feel bad about making fun of the mentally handicapped (is that still a pc term?) and besides Waterdragon hasn't stepped down from it yet, and red5 is making some inroads in becoming the #2 banana for the position.

You are not worthy yet in that regards. So keep waxing off and you'll get there college boy.



to the rest...kind regards from Canada, still bigger, still on top!

[Water Dragon]

I'm confused now. Are Gene and KL argiuing that what's on that video is indeed 'good Kung Fu'?

Please tell me that's not what's going on here.

[David Jamieson]

waterdragon-

get the bong out of your mouth and throw some water on your face.

I am saying that the video is authentic. I have already stated elsewhere that I thought the kungfu was total cr@p, but I do understand now that both duelists where under a load of bogus rules imposed on them and a whole bunch of other dumb stuff, so, i can see why it is so crappy.

ok?

ok, go back to your happy bubbles smoky session now.

[lkfmdc]

reading Kung Lek's posts are like watching those retarded kids at the special olympics

in one way it's sort of cute that they have this false sense of achievement, but in another it's so pathetic that they don't realize how retarded they are

[David Jamieson]

reading Kung Lek's posts are like watching those retarded kids at the special olympics

in one way it's sort of cute that they have this false sense of achievement, but in another it's so pathetic that they don't realize how retarded they are

That's rich coming from you Ross. You know, you were spouting off about how I was the one filled with hate? remember? Oh yeah, I forgot that you are just a goof who is horribly punch drunk. I'm sorry, oop, you got a bit of drool there little buddy.

here's some lego blocks

[red5angel]

but I do understand now that both duelists where under a load of bogus rules

right, that's why there is aparently no kungfu skill whatsoever in either of those guys, because of all the rules.

[lkfmdc]

That's just it dude, you will NEVER get it

You post the most ignorant and ridiculous crap known to mankind and never notice that 90% of the BBS is rolling on the floor dying of laughter at you.

Some people post stupid stuff, and when it is revealed to them, they recognize it.... you are the best kind of joke, because you don't even know when you are being laughed at and the kind of fool you are

Keep posting about zionism, rothchilds, trilateral commissions, numerology, etc etc

You are the poster boy for uneducated, ignorant biggots who believe anything that they are told....

BUT HAVE A NICE DAY

[SifuAbel]

Originally posted by Kung Lek
Abel-

the form demo was nice. That is tai shing pek kwa?

cheers

My sigung just calls it pek kwar. My sifu thinks its more related to tzu jan men.

Either way this monkey style is bundled with the sung longfist and is very old.

So, uhhhhhhhhhhh, i dunno..........

[David Jamieson]

You post the most ignorant and ridiculous crap known to mankind and never notice that 90% of the BBS is rolling on the floor dying of laughter at you.

uh, I believe you have defined yourself there dave. lol

Abel- thanks, cool, definitely looks like monkey style to be sure.

red5- read teh whoel thread, you'll get the gist. Better yet think of it this way:

promoter:You need to demonstrate your art.

fighter: ok

promoter: but you have to do it in a venue that looks western

fighter: ok

promoter: you can't use any throws, gouges, elbows, knees

fighter: ok, uh, but now it's getting away from my art

promoter: but i will give you money

fighter: how much money?

promoter: lots

fighter: hmmmm, well ok, but i'm telling you, it's not really gonna amount to anything.

promoter: I don't care, these idiots who clamour at ringside with their bloodlust and vicarious desires will pay me and you lots!

fighter: uh, well ok

and so on. sort of like the time when bruce lee and muhammad ali got it on

Back to Dave Ross for one second, I make a couple of posts and you go off like a bottle rocket, you are such a goofball it is amazing. And you are a whiner to boot. Anyway, whatever goofball, keep chirping away like the weiny you are. you are entertaining that is fo sho mo fo.

Gene- seriously, I have a day off and that is why I'm so "unleashed", It's like i've been holding it all in and this new found freedom just exlaxed me deluxo! I will calm down and get back to serious kungfu discussion forthwith!

cheers

[Water Dragon]

I know you're trying to be funny KL, but you're coming across as a c*ck.

[David Jamieson]

well why don't you cry about it waterdragon?

yeesh, you guys wanna be all nice and flowery now after you give me 3 years of grief????

no way muchachos, some of you got it coming from me.

I've said before that I bet if you tried hard enough you could get the Dalai Lamma to throw a rock at your head.

Not that I would ever compare myself with such a soul, because I am but excrement beside such a soul, I am just saying.

c0ck enough for ya? I got more, I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!

[lkfmdc]

got to love the fact that Kung Lek is too stupid to realize that the more he posts, the more he just proves my point. A smarter man would remain silent rather than demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt what sort of a$$ he really is

Let's review a few of KL's statements, these are DIRECT QUOTES


- "W's grandaddy preston is known to have helped out the National Socialist party of Germany during the second world war."

- "Iraq still under the thumb of the rothchilds army"

- "the latin phrase under the pyramid on teh US dollar"

- "I hope that you understand that this type of numerology is only important in kabbalah and free masonry"

- anyone got any idea of what the numbers mean? teh 3/11, 9/11 and 911 days in between? That is interesting and I would reiterate that numerological alignments are much more important to kabbalah and freemasonry and not important to islam"

- "Jews should fully integrate with teh rest of the world like therest of us"

If these don't convince you he is an anti-semitic, ignorant, raging lunatic, might be time for you to look in the mirror also

[David Jamieson]

and , uh, Dave, this has what to do with the subject, I mean besides the fact that you're a goof? LOL

you saved all that conspiracy theory junk? hahahahaha and you saved it out of context, that is so smart for a dullard like yourself.

who's the conspiracy theorist now?

anyway, moving right along...

[lkfmdc]

the subject is, you're a jerk, and I didn't have to save it, you put up so much of it I didn't have to do anyting but cut and paste, just edited out some of the sillier stuff, if you can imagine stuff sillier than the above

If I didn't have sympathy for Gene, Tiger Claw and the magazine, I'd just forward your trash to the ADL and have your butt kicked so far off this BBS you'd be back with your backwoods KKK buddies on IM.....