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    Things you used to think were true about MA

    I wish I knew 5 or 6 years ago what I know now.

    1. Strength matters
    2. Size matters
    3. When one hand punches, the other hand guards your face, and not your hip.
    4. Staying flat footed will get you owned.
    5. Cool looking fighting techniques do not work in real fights
    6. Standing in one place will get you owned
    7. Iron body techniques that require time to prepare before you get hit are useless in a fight, unless your opponent tells you where he's going to hit you, and lets you prepare.
    8. Any technique that is based off of your opponent punching and leaving his arm out there for you to do your technique on is useless in a fight
    9. Ground fighting knowledge is essential
    10. Standing with your side facing your opponent gives you one only arm and one leg to attack with.

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    1. You could fly around.
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    1. Fighting is fun
    2. Fighting isn't dangerous
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    Re: Things you used to think were true about MA

    Originally posted by IronFist
    I wish I knew 5 or 6 years ago what I know now.

    1. Strength matters

    IMO yes. But some styles have different types of strength, and sometimes strength is technique and vice versa

    2. Size matters


    Of course. Hell, yeah. If someone is 280 pounds I don't care at all if they bull rush you over, or if they do a perfect yoga deep step takedown attack. But in IMA at a advanced level size means nothing due to peng, and it's not me who says it, any good IMA teacher knows this, says this, and shows it, but I know it's true also. Hey, bob sapp can be arm barred, but his size counts when he hits.

    3. When one hand punches, the other hand guards your face, and not your hip.

    Yes. That is good. That's how boxers and kickboxers do it. This is pretty basic, and IMO the confusion only exists because of 3 year TKD and Karate black belts, and reinventing forms. TMA should not look like bad kickboxing

    4. Staying flat footed will get you owned.

    Not gonna comment. Correct in a basic sense IMO. Toatal flat foot I think would be mostly bad

    5. Cool looking fighting techniques do not work in real fights

    Absolutely correct. Many people a decade ago didn't even know why a match was stopped when a grappler won. You can't tell by looking at someone, no way

    6. Standing in one place will get you owned

    Yeah, mostly correct I think. But the fight takes place on the inside iMO. Well, important to react I think, and fight back if you can

    7. Iron body techniques that require time to prepare before you get hit are useless in a fight, unless your opponent tells you where he's going to hit you, and lets you prepare.

    I'm not especially into iron body, but I think it doesn't matter at all if you knew you were gonna be punched or not. It is training and conditioning, and there are no tricks in qigong, well originally, maybe trick have been added to some hard qigong, but they have nothing to do with the training. So I wonder what you know about hard qigong that you can say you have to get ready, because I think the benefits of the training are automatic. Anyways, IMO iron body mostly has to do with maintaining relaxed breathing under pressure, no tim to prepare, and if you get tired, it won't matter if you prepare.

    8. Any technique that is based off of your opponent punching and leaving his arm out there for you to do your technique on is useless in a fight

    Absolutely


    9. Ground fighting knowledge is essential


    Yeah. But what qualifies as ground knowledge? Some styles teach BS groun fighting, and then others styles have some actual ground fighting. And while many style are very similar , not all will be the same, and doesn't mean they're wrong. And in the end it can come down to natural talent, toughness, what positions are you weakest in.

    10. Standing with your side facing your opponent gives you one only arm and one leg to attack with.


    Muay Thai = superior , TKD= inferior

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    Last edited by backbreaker; 04-18-2004 at 11:37 AM.

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    Originally posted by Popeye's dad
    1. Fighting is fun
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    3. Chicks will think I'm cool if I do MA
    lol

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    I know the death touch.
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    LOL


    no...thats the Satan Touch. Pestilence Finger. Disease Hand Style. Get it right, Twat.

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    Re: Re: Things you used to think were true about MA

    Originally posted by backbreaker


    Any flamers gonna reply to me?
    I will...

    But in IMA at a advanced level size means nothing due to peng, and it's not me who says it, any good IMA teacher knows this, says this, and shows it, but I know it's true also.
    Ward off is fine and good, but size will still matter. It's a factor in a fight that just cannot be overlooked. Godo technique can nullify the size foactor somewhat, but you can't completely discount it.

    Yeah, mostly correct I think. But the fight takes place on the inside iMO. Well, important to react I think, and fight back if you can
    It's definitely correct. movement is essential. Even seemingly small motions, like head movement. If you don't move your head, for example, I always know where it is, as the level and position never changes. So, even when you sidestep, I know where you hit you in the face. Lack of footwork will get you steamrolled. It will also get your legs torn up.


    I'm not especially into iron body, but I think it doesn't matter at all if you knew you were gonna be punched or not. It is training and conditioning, and there are no tricks in qigong, well originally, maybe trick have been added to some hard qigong, but they have nothing to do with the training. So I wonder what you know about hard qigong that you can say you have to get ready, because I think the benefits of the training are automatic. Anyways, IMO iron body mostly has to do with maintaining relaxed breathing under pressure, no tim to prepare, and if you get tired, it won't matter if you prepare.
    He's talking about the guys who have to prepare, take deep breaths, etc....whatever prepping they do. Juko kai guys immediately come to mind.


    Yeah. But what qualifies as ground knowledge? Some styles teach BS groun fighting, and then others styles have some actual ground fighting. And while many style are very similar , not all will be the same, and doesn't mean they're wrong. And in the end it can come down to natural talent, toughness, what positions are you weakest in.
    Knowledge is experience on the ground, knowing what to do, etc. You have people with theoretical knowledge, i.e. the people that insist chin na will translate directly to the ground, yet have never tried it. The "knowledge" these people have will do them no good at all. No, not all will be the same, but yes, some will be wrong. I've seen it.
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    1. Sensei X found the "lost" techniques in karate. Kind of like discovering America, it was always there you just didn't know it.

    2. Traditional arts are useless in a "street" fight.

    3. Traditional arts are too deadly in any fight.

    4. Sport fighters can't "street" fight.

    5. Sport fighters can "street" fight.

    6. Most fights stay standing.

    7. Most fights go to the ground.

    ...the list goes on...

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    Cool. Yeah if I don't move I'll get smacked down like orlovski vs. cabbage, you're right about that, I'm the one talking basic now.

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    Originally posted by Kristoffer


    lol

    I wanted to be like the guys in Street Fighter 2 ..walk around and challenge people, stuff like that.
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