Can't wait till we catch these ****ers.

[rogue]

Getting sodomized with a glow light will be the least of their problems.

http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle6172.htm

[SevenStar]

link doesn't work - account suspended...

[joedoe]

I suspect you are talking about the beheading of a US citizen in Iraq? Nasty stuff.

[PHILBERT]

Some ******* I know e-mailed me the video, I didn't know what it was at first, then it quickly jumped to the big part. I seriously had to try and hold my dinner in my stomach.

[joedoe]

A colleague of mine mentioned he wanted to see it. Personally I don't have any desire to see a man die, particularly in such a sad and horrible manner.

[PHILBERT]

It got to me, but I know that it would of been worst if I didn't see something similar before. My friend Sam called me one night, crying and freaking out, cause her stupid ass friend Robbie (who I'd like to smack) told her to download a video, but she didn't know what it was. She told me it was about a Russian solider but couldn't finish. So I got on KaZaA and did a search, found the video and watched it. I had heard about it before, but had no desire to watch it, and only watched it cause Sam needed someone to talk to about it. I knew from the second I saw it, it was real. It took me 15 minutes to convince her it was fake, and then I went to go throw up.

[CaptinPickAxe]

I haven't seen the video nor do I have the desire to see it. But to think that Beheading a civilian is equal to humiliating suspected terrorist is horrible. Don't get me wrong, by no means do I condone the actions of the perpitrators of the Iraqi prison abuses. It sickens me to think that such religious and political zealots can take god's name in vain by using it WHILE SAWING OFF A MANS HEAD! I hope justice catches up to those men, and I hope their persecution is twice as unjust as the man they killed.

EDIT: I take that back. I hope they live the rest of thier natural lives...in solitary confinement. I think the press is worse for exploiting Nic Berg's death. That's mostly what I saw today on CNN at work (I don't do much). The only thing else I saw was "Prison Abuse Scandal".

[cerebus]

"sawing"?

[Simon]

Originally posted by CaptinPickAxe
It sickens me to think that such religious and political zealots can take god's name in vain by using it WHILE SAWING OFF A MANS HEAD! I hope justice catches up to those men, and I hope their persecution is twice as unjust as the man they killed.

what about the innocents in iraq killed in the name of "weapons of mass destruction" - not everyone in iraq are fundamentalist america haters. don't get me wrong both of the above cases are terrible but 1000s of people like you and me dying seems worse to me.

(not trying to get too controversial - just another side of the coin)

[Christopher M]

Originally posted by Simon
what about the innocents in iraq killed in the name of "weapons of mass destruction"

They died 'in the name of' dismantling an intolerable regime, not WMD. You can verify Bush's reasoning on this matter by consulting his remarks directly rather than relying on the media. And what about them? There is at least some pretense they died in a just cause, which is not the case here.

[T'ai Ji Monkey]

Originally posted by Christopher M

And what about them? There is at least some pretense they died in a just cause, which is not the case here.

I guess that that is a comfort to the remaining family members and too do those Iraqi's that ended up crippled or unable to pursue their jobs.

How many US-Soldiers were wounded(possible crippled) and what about their lifes and families? How many won't be able to go back to their old jobs and how will this affect their families?

Remember the old saying:
"Come back riding on your horse or on your shield".

It is easy to say "oh they died for a cause" and brush them off, when the real casualties of ANY war are not the fallen soldiers & civilians but the wounded/crippled ones and their families as well as the families of the fallen soldiers/civilians.

Anyhuh, not getting involved in this thread just wanted to throw something out there.

[Christopher M]

I didn't recommend brushing them off. I critiqued the juxtaposition between them and the beheading.

[Kristoffer]

Originally posted by PHILBERT
It got to me, but I know that it would of been worst if I didn't see something similar before. My friend Sam called me one night, crying and freaking out, cause her stupid ass friend Robbie (who I'd like to smack) told her to download a video, but she didn't know what it was. She told me it was about a Russian solider but couldn't finish. So I got on KaZaA and did a search, found the video and watched it. I had heard about it before, but had no desire to watch it, and only watched it cause Sam needed someone to talk to about it. I knew from the second I saw it, it was real. It took me 15 minutes to convince her it was fake, and then I went to go throw up.

I saw that too. Horrible ****... As for the Berg video, I don't want to see it. Why would anyone want to see that? The US soldiers torture scandal stirred up bigger waves than I thought it would.

[cerebus]

What's the video of the Russian soldier you mention? I don't think I've ever heard of it.

[CaptinPickAxe]

Don't get me wrong. I feel just as much sympathy for any innocents killed in war regardless of nationality.